Post by: Gandora on January 29, 2012, 09:16:31 pm
Stats so far:
Gold:
Wins: 7
Loss: 1
Spins: 2
Silver:
35 Wins - 1 Losses (10 1hp decks)
8 Special Spins
It has some luck elements such as fate egg, SoSe and Pandemonium which sometimes can be a huge turn around.
I usually steal shields from the opponent or SoSe may give me one.
The only reason I use adreanline is that I don't have epi ;)
It's not a completely new deck in my opinion but Rainbow seems to do best against arena.
Criticism/Suggestions appreciated :)
The following is a modified version according to suggestions (??? is SoSe. After 38/17 I started using Epi)
Stats
Version 1:
Silver (so far):
38 wins - 17 losses
2 Spins
Gold (so far):
9 wins - 5 losses
1 Spin
Version 2:
Silver:
73 wins - 18 losses
5 Spins
Gold:
9 wins - 4 loss
Post by: furballdn on January 29, 2012, 09:25:39 pm
Post by: Gandora on January 29, 2012, 09:42:36 pm
Why that title?Silver for the arena it is meant to be used and slash... i don't know xD it's a pokemon attack i always liked?
Why golems over graboids though? Extra sturdiness?A little sturdiness ( ;) ) and the following reasons:
Cost almost the same, graboids do interfere (admittedly very little) with fate egg. Golems are not killed by: shockwave, lightning, rage elixier (you can use yours for them) and maxwell. so they're also like a decoy for CC. they also last longer against poison and are a better target for epi (compared to elite graboids or do 6 and 10 both do 12 dmg with epi? I'm actually not sure :) ).
I'd suggest using maxwell over pandy, just seems more stable that way. Perhaps a fog shield or something might also be helpful.Yes sometimes I would have been happy to have one of those ;) I guess best is to replace the luck cards (fate egg and pande) as you suggested.
But I like both of them since they help to increase variety and fun of the games. And Pande can be great CC. imo it's also a bit matter of personal preference here :)
Post by: furballdn on January 29, 2012, 10:12:49 pm
Post by: ralouf on January 29, 2012, 11:03:36 pm
I got your point about using golem and I'm fine with that, also using golem let more time quanta free for HG.
I don't think that this explosion is needed, you already have 2 steal for PC it seems enough, I'll suggest a lava destroyer instead.
You should uppgrade that mind fleyer because the upped version owns with adren.
I'd use bonewall over flesh recluse but it depend which deck you'll face. Bone wall is still awesome and will make you win a lot of games, also if you play the wall advise you to use maxwell demon to feed the stack of bone, instead of pandemonium, which is too random for me ^^
Post by: Gandora on January 30, 2012, 12:02:13 am
I'd also change the FFQ for perhaps fog shield and/or shockwave. A lot of rainbow decks I see lack reliable CC. Also, if it was me, I'd personally use an HG instead of an egg.
Yes HG looks way better than fate egg even if it's less fun obv.I'll try to replace explosion but with minor phoenix instead. The Golem often dies very quick because of CC while the phoenix can be used as decoy and always be revived (and can be used to power oty and bone wall). In addition, i already have forest spectre as a growth creature.
I got your point about using golem and I'm fine with that, also using golem let more time quanta free for HG.
I don't think that this explosion is needed, you already have 2 steal for PC it seems enough, I'll suggest a lava destroyer instead.
You should uppgrade that mind fleyer because the upped version owns with adren.
I'd use bonewall over flesh recluse but it depend which deck you'll face. Bone wall is still awesome and will make you win a lot of games, also if you play the wall advise you to use maxwell demon to feed the stack of bone, instead of pandemonium, which is too random for me ^^
I'll also test how a fog shield and owl's eye do when replaced with FFQ. (maybe I should upgrade both of them first)
I was thinking about upgrading the mind flayer too. Though he has his advantages in both versions. A quick mind flayer can be very important against some decks while against others you may prefer to have extra atk and hp. Personally, I don't think the difference between upgraded and unupped is that relevant. An unupped still can do 8 dmg which isn't that bad imo :)
Now according to your suggestions here's the version I'll try these days:
I guess it's more a standard rainbow farmer, now that the "fun cards" are away but I need some money :D
I'll report the results later, thanks for your comments :)
Edit: Using improved Fog:
Stats so far:
32 wins - 10 losses
3 spins
Post by: rickerd on January 30, 2012, 03:04:59 pm
Post by: furballdn on January 31, 2012, 02:59:17 am
Hm...win rate percentage is roughly around the same as the original. love to see more stats.I'd also change the FFQ for perhaps fog shield and/or shockwave. A lot of rainbow decks I see lack reliable CC. Also, if it was me, I'd personally use an HG instead of an egg.Yes HG looks way better than fate egg even if it's less fun obv.I'll try to replace explosion but with minor phoenix instead. The Golem often dies very quick because of CC while the phoenix can be used as decoy and always be revived (and can be used to power oty and bone wall). In addition, i already have forest spectre as a growth creature.
I got your point about using golem and I'm fine with that, also using golem let more time quanta free for HG.
I don't think that this explosion is needed, you already have 2 steal for PC it seems enough, I'll suggest a lava destroyer instead.
You should uppgrade that mind fleyer because the upped version owns with adren.
I'd use bonewall over flesh recluse but it depend which deck you'll face. Bone wall is still awesome and will make you win a lot of games, also if you play the wall advise you to use maxwell demon to feed the stack of bone, instead of pandemonium, which is too random for me ^^
I'll also test how a fog shield and owl's eye do when replaced with FFQ. (maybe I should upgrade both of them first)
I was thinking about upgrading the mind flayer too. Though he has his advantages in both versions. A quick mind flayer can be very important against some decks while against others you may prefer to have extra atk and hp. Personally, I don't think the difference between upgraded and unupped is that relevant. An unupped still can do 8 dmg which isn't that bad imo :)
Now according to your suggestions here's the version I'll try these days:
I guess it's more a standard rainbow farmer, now that the "fun cards" are away but I need some money :D
I'll report the results later, thanks for your comments :)
Edit: Using improved Fog:
Stats so far:
16 wins - 6 losses
1 spin
Post by: Gandora on January 31, 2012, 08:09:28 am
Hm...win rate percentage is roughly around the same as the original. love to see more stats.I'll update them daily, so just take a look from time to time on the posts :)
Post by: furballdn on February 01, 2012, 12:04:03 am
Post by: Gandora on February 01, 2012, 09:20:15 pm
Modded version now has a better win rate! XDI think this was expectable xD
While my version wins with luck and eventually more speed,
the second one is more adapted to arena having more CC and defense ^^
So I'm not really surprised xP
I guess I'll edit the OP so it's easier to compare them :)
Post by: burpcow on February 03, 2012, 05:39:59 am
Post by: Gandora on February 03, 2012, 07:25:03 am
I tried it in Silver League, and it works great. Thanks :)Glad you like it ;)
Which version did you use?
Post by: burpcow on February 03, 2012, 07:35:31 am
Post by: zhangvict on February 12, 2012, 04:25:52 am
Yes HG looks way better than fate egg even if it's less fun obv.Wow the changes you describe is very JMZ-Classic like -->hourglass, ulithid, adren, bonewall, maxwell
I got your point about using golem and I'm fine with that, also using golem let more time quanta free for HG.
I don't think that this explosion is needed, you already have 2 steal for PC it seems enough, I'll suggest a lava destroyer instead.
You should uppgrade that mind fleyer because the upped version owns with adren.
I'd use bonewall over flesh recluse but it depend which deck you'll face. Bone wall is still awesome and will make you win a lot of games, also if you play the wall advise you to use maxwell demon to feed the stack of bone, instead of pandemonium, which is too random for me ^^
Post by: eaglgenes101 on February 12, 2012, 06:31:53 am
Post by: furballdn on February 12, 2012, 06:41:03 am
Would you advise upgrading that mind flayer?Personally, yes. But it's really up to you. Unupped, it's at least one SN to get out. Upped, it takes a maximum of two, although the QTs may provide the :water. It's really up to you whether you prefer an earlier safer lobotomizer or if you prefer extra damage and resilience. Upped also has synergy with adrenaline.
Post by: Gandora on November 20, 2016, 11:06:09 pm