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When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1226044#msg1226044
« on: March 02, 2016, 09:45:22 pm »
Hello, everyone, this is my first post, and sorry about the bad English   :D

Recently I have been playing a lot of 500hp EM deck, most are using bripod's 500hp EM deck, and i am really happy and appreciate the outcome i got. Although the winrate is low lately, probably getting too much winning :P. Anyway, i have a thinking of making more fun to play. I read a lot of the other 500hp deck post, and come out this deck.

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It does have cc, pc, healing and even attack power. Also, i put in mirror shield, why, because during the time i play in plat, i have counter many Aether SoW decks, and by that you don't stand a chance of winning(probably slim chance), because the damage is over your healing.

ok, now let's talk about how this deck work.

otyugh: basically eat everything that is not immaterial
SoF & GF: damage absorb source and even PC(don't be afraid of using SoF over, there is a reason i put 3 GF. when it turns to BH, u can use GF on the other one, and BH can sometimes be useful)
Protect Artifact: Use it on QT, SoG, Eternity and Sop(important, i will explain later, also fits the topic)
Granite Skin: the main soul to 500hp EM
purify: there are a lot of poison in Plat :o
Sop: it can be use on early increase power for otyugh, but remember you need to have the second copy in your hand, otherwise you will be slowly killing your opponent, and can't get 500hp even EM. and why PA on it, because if the AI destroy or steal it, you will begin to kill your opponent, that's why my topic say "when you are ready". Also, when you reach 500hp, u can simply click it and give your opponent OT kill maybe two turn(by that time, your creature should be stalling enough attack), you won't have to wait until he decks out. 
RoL: if your are not ready, it will be with you :P
Mirror Shield: Spell reflection and also provide a little damage reduction(good thing is already immaterial and cheaper then jade shield, in the early game, it's not easy to get out that 7 quanta shield, although it has 2 damage reduction, but i think MS is better).
Improved Miracle: sometimes it saves u from the early game, you can use it on early game, Especially when you are almost one step to set up your deck.
Sanctuary: healing source and prevent BH, discord, and devourer
Electrum Hourglasses: you want to draw all the tower out fast
Eternity: your RoL's friend

I use this deck to play on few Ai4,it works well, and i think it can probably work on arena too. After the few game, i found out that at early game, you are starve of time and(especially) gravity quanta, but once u clean out his board, you are fine.

Suggestions and feedback are welcome, if i do something wrong about the post please instruct me, because it's my first post. ;D

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Re: When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1226048#msg1226048
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 10:45:46 pm »
rapidly tested this in trainer using my own arena plat decks, picking the most commons archeotypes

dbh: 17 pillars, 43 cards; even with the mulligan u risk to draw only one tower (or zero), bh, bh, surrend because is impossibile do something
freebirds: same problem, 2 pillars, the ai used 2 SoBs because i played SoG with PA, still no towers, surrend because at turn 5 i was really low on hp
grab+eq+devourer: i don't even know why i tested this almost impossible match up
monodark: steal one pillar, rip
poison with chys: this should be a really good match up for your deck, and probably u can win 60% of the matchs

i did 3 battle against every deck, same problem, no towers; u really need a lot of  :earth and  :gravity, in every match i always end with tons of  :life quantum.

u can't use the  :life mark for only 4 cards, and waste 6 type of quantum while the first thing u need is the  :earth quantum

this can't work in plat, probably a 20% win rate in gold, should have a decent winrate in silver

probably change the mark, remove SoGs, use stone mark and add some  :gravity pendulums and   :light adding more sancs, u can even try to cut down something, like replacing otys with varadium guy and use explosions as CC, even if u lost the combo SoF + GF, and add UNUPPED sundials





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Re: When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1226061#msg1226061
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 11:55:27 pm »
yes,you are right about that quanta issue,  after testing more games on Ai4, the  :gravity quanta is the most needed one, because u need to set up your defense really fast, the  :earth quanta is not important, since u have SoP, u can easily stall to 71  :earth quanta to finish the blow, so probably change  :life to  :gravity is better? Also after i found out that lack of quanta issue, i do -1 SoP + 1QT, i am still trying to add towers to 19 even 20ish, and also i do think about that varadium guy at first, but the con side is it can't kill airbone creature even dragon(i believe), so that's why i keep otyugh. About the SoG, yes i think it can be removed, and add more QT, and sundial part can be helpful too.

so i am thinking probably -1 SoP -1 SoF -4 SoG -1 otyugh +2 QT +5 sundials, and change mark to gravity
or -1 Sop -1 SoF -1 otyugh +3 QT and change mark to gravity and leave the SoG as healing power so it won't compete with light quanta
sometimes splitting quanta can be risky(read it from other post), so that's why i keep using QT and easy protect

i will be testing these two mods lately and share the new thoughts tomorrow

but thank u, Manuel, your's and other's feedback is the increase power of the deck  ;)

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Re: When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1226083#msg1226083
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definitely keep the SOG
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Re: When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1246720#msg1246720
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 11:07:59 pm »
Does anything special happen if you get 500HP EM?
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Re: When you are ready.....give me 5!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61368.msg1246721#msg1246721
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 11:43:00 pm »
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Does anything special happen if you get 500HP EM?

It's just like any other EM with bonus electrum and score for your extra hp and just like any other win with more hp. So in short no.

 

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