Scarab Scavengers

[yahoo123]

So you are goin to rely soley on your weapon? A Bad draw of the eternity be at the bottom of the deck would kill you

[sillyking14]

throw in a rewind with it, i'm not sure that this would be most effective, but if you have 2 rewinds (one permenent the other spell) then it would be impossible for this to happen. and even if you start with eternity on the bottom that is only going to happen like 2% of the time (1/43) and it would have to happen during a game that you need it which (if scared girl is right) won't hapen very often anyway

[jmizzle7]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

[yahoo123]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

[jmizzle7]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

[yahoo123]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

As in MASSIVE Dragons?
but anyway even of you had 12 scarabs on the screen, it still isnt enough to eat the MASSIVE dragons.

[midg3333]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

As in MASSIVE Dragons?
but anyway even of you had 12 scarabs on the screen, it still isnt enough to eat the MASSIVE dragons.

actually, it probably is.
assuming you had 6 scarabs in play, all unbuffed...
you PU 1 of them, it is a 3/6, but then becomes 3/12 at the end of the turn.
Next turn, if you PU that one, you have a 3/12 which becomes 3/19 at the end of the turn
The turn after that you can get a 3/27...
and that's assuming that you haven't eaten anything or played powerups

that being said, it will be difficult to beat geminis dragons... unless you get an eternity or a pulverizer (not sure if pulverizer is in scaredgirl's deck, but it's in mine =)

[Scaredgirl]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

As in MASSIVE Dragons?
but anyway even of you had 12 scarabs on the screen, it still isnt enough to eat the MASSIVE dragons.

actually, it probably is.
assuming you had 6 scarabs in play, all unbuffed...
you PU 1 of them, it is a 3/6, but then becomes 3/12 at the end of the turn.
Next turn, if you PU that one, you have a 3/12 which becomes 3/19 at the end of the turn
The turn after that you can get a 3/27...
and that's assuming that you haven't eaten anything or played powerups

that being said, it will be difficult to beat geminis dragons... unless you get an eternity or a pulverizer (not sure if pulverizer is in scaredgirl's deck, but it's in mine =)

Which deck version are we talking about here? Because with my version Gemini's Massive Dragons become Massive Noobs. With all these Feral Bonds and Bone Walls, defense > damage. Not to mention the fact that you CAN eat them eventually.

[midg3333]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

As in MASSIVE Dragons?
but anyway even of you had 12 scarabs on the screen, it still isnt enough to eat the MASSIVE dragons.

actually, it probably is.
assuming you had 6 scarabs in play, all unbuffed...
you PU 1 of them, it is a 3/6, but then becomes 3/12 at the end of the turn.
Next turn, if you PU that one, you have a 3/12 which becomes 3/19 at the end of the turn
The turn after that you can get a 3/27...
and that's assuming that you haven't eaten anything or played powerups

that being said, it will be difficult to beat geminis dragons... unless you get an eternity or a pulverizer (not sure if pulverizer is in scaredgirl's deck, but it's in mine =)

Which deck version are we talking about here? Because with my version Gemini's Massive Dragons become Massive Noobs. With all these Feral Bonds and Bone Walls, defense > damage. Not to mention the fact that you CAN eat them eventually.

but quite often, gemini can get a dragon out, use unstoppable (momentum) on it... which makes the bone wall useless, then twin universe it lots of times...and play more dragons which he also uses unstoppable on... then again, with 3 bonds you can heal for a lot every turn... and sundials will also protect you for quite a while

[Scaredgirl]

but quite often, gemini can get a dragon out, use unstoppable (momentum) on it... which makes the bone wall useless, then twin universe it lots of times...and play more dragons which he also uses unstoppable on... then again, with 3 bonds you can heal for a lot every turn... and sundials will also protect you for quite a while

Yeah, Gemini can go crazy sometimes and when he does there's nothing you can do. But generally I don't think he is that big of a problem with this deck. Some other Gods pose much greater threat.

[turin]

Eternity on the bottom is one of those problems that rarely happens, and when it does, you usually win before then anyway. Decking isn't as much of a problem as many think. If you are that scared of decking, you aren't playing aggressively enough. Stop drawing cards at some point and start swinging for the win!

Yeah, I know but Im talking about the dragons of gemini, not decking out

You're right. I didn't really look at the previously posted deck, and I assumed that there were multiple PU and/or armor for the scarabs to get huge. After checking out the deck, yes, Gemini's dragons should pose a massive threat. 

As in MASSIVE Dragons?
but anyway even of you had 12 scarabs on the screen, it still isnt enough to eat the MASSIVE dragons.

You dont consider the heavy armor + twin universe combo: when you twin universe a scarab cpu counts the TUed life as basic (1), making scarabs grow and grow...that makes massive dragons eatable, even if needs good preparation, playing keepoing in mind this goal (and who doesnt play scarabs only to get the biggest one ever!? )

Example:4 scarabs on + 5 spiders eaten + heavy armor= 15 life for your "main" scarab. The TUed one gets 15 + 4 other scarabs= 19 if TUed we have another with 19+5=26, again TUed that's 26+6=32 Here we are!

Obviously this comes ridicolous quickly if there's a lot of food and more than 1 armor

Edit: a possible major problem: having a huge scarab will make gemini TU it, having grav quanta to eat yours! :S

[cdgx]

Yeah, Gemini can go crazy sometimes and when he does there's nothing you can do. But generally I don't think he is that big of a problem with this deck. Some other Gods pose much greater threat.

unupgraded elf - mutate is much more versatile than lobotomize ..