Post by: Jashin on December 14, 2012, 10:12:58 pm
So it's my first deck posted, it's what I currently use for fgs.
It's possible that something like that was already posted but I couldnt find it on first few pages so here it goes.
It works fine with almost every god except of those like Divine glory.
I was thinking about changing mark to :aether and doing some major changes in it, but I'll be working on it.
Don't be too harsh cause... erm... just don't be :P
Purpose of specific cards and why not other suggested:
WHY:
Boneyard not graveyard because it's cheaper and You need death quanta for the wall too, moreover You don't care if You mutate normal or elite skele, it doesn't matter;
Fire storm & lightning storm to kill opponent's creatures, lightning can be useful too if the oponent have many RoL's or phoenixes, also sometimes even that 1 hp enables otyugh to eat something crucial;
Hourglasses and sundials are very important to fasten the deck because it needs most of cards played to work properly, as for the amount I've tested many different combinations to come up with this, more glasses dont mak eany good but 2 is needed, sundials are good in any amount;
Eternity not to deckout of course and when played earlier can rewind skeles, must be played with protect artifact unless You're perfectly sure that opponent cannot steal it nor destroy it or even freez it;
Steals to steal or resteal things;
Phase shield to shield and grab some time to draw important cards;
Quintessence twice to be cast on one(!) Otyugh and druid, as the are the very base of th edeck. Otygh is of course far more important in most cases, the main moment its otherwise i can recall now is fighting akebono;
Mindgate to extend decks abilities, it can be a real blessing when you get with it i.e. purify, steal, some shield or other spell, I heard it's unnecesary but IMHO it is better than any single card I could replace it with;
Feral Bond simply to regain life;
Otyugh to eat everthing that appears, what produces skeles which can be turned into something else by eternity or druid, and if necessary eaten again :) ;
Fallen Druid to mutate skeles and sometimes powerfull enemy krits i.e. akebono's dragons;
Bone wall because it protects even from the strongest hits and is infinite when working with otyughs AND storms do help much ;
WHY NOT:
Eagle's Eye is no good because the deck is to be set up to the last card ASAP, so You need eternity;
Firefly Queen is not in my deck because I think that it can manadge with only enemy krits, and this is one card less. But it's not very bad idea to reconsider, I just don't use it :) ;
Boneyard not graveyard because it's cheaper and You need death quanta for the wall too, moreover You don't care if You mutate normal or elite skele, it doesn't matter;
Fire storm & lightning storm to kill opponent's creatures, lightning can be useful too if the oponent have many RoL's or phoenixes, also sometimes even that 1 hp enables otyugh to eat something crucial;
Hourglasses and sundials are very important to fasten the deck because it needs most of cards played to work properly, as for the amount I've tested many different combinations to come up with this, more glasses dont mak eany good but 2 is needed, sundials are good in any amount;
Eternity not to deckout of course and when played earlier can rewind skeles, must be played with protect artifact unless You're perfectly sure that opponent cannot steal it nor destroy it or even freez it;
Steals to steal or resteal things;
Phase shield to shield and grab some time to draw important cards;
Quintessence twice to be cast on one(!) Otyugh and druid, as the are the very base of th edeck. Otygh is of course far more important in most cases, the main moment its otherwise i can recall now is fighting akebono;
Mindgate to extend decks abilities, it can be a real blessing when you get with it i.e. purify, steal, some shield or other spell, I heard it's unnecesary but IMHO it is better than any single card I could replace it with;
Feral Bond simply to regain life;
Otyugh to eat everthing that appears, what produces skeles which can be turned into something else by eternity or druid, and if necessary eaten again :) ;
Fallen Druid to mutate skeles and sometimes powerfull enemy krits i.e. akebono's dragons;
Bone wall because it protects even from the strongest hits and is infinite when working with otyughs AND storms do help much ;
WHY NOT:
Eagle's Eye is no good because the deck is to be set up to the last card ASAP, so You need eternity;
Firefly Queen is not in my deck because I think that it can manadge with only enemy krits, and this is one card less. But it's not very bad idea to reconsider, I just don't use it :) ;
Any other suggestions posted will be included.
Post by: rob77dp on December 14, 2012, 10:43:30 pm
Hey.
So it's my first deck posted, it's what I currently use for fgs.
It's possible that something like that was already posted but I couldnt find it on first few pages so here it goes.
It works fine with almost every god except of those like Divine glory.
I was thinking about changing mark to :aether and doing some major changes in it, but I'll be working on it.
Don't be too harsh cause... erm... just don't be :P
Might I suggest -1 Lightning Storm +1 Eagle's Eye? Re-usable CC on un-used :air quanta.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 14, 2012, 11:45:00 pm
Post by: UnderneathTheLens on December 15, 2012, 12:44:16 am
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 15, 2012, 04:30:06 am
It's surprisingly reliable, but quite slow. First winning game took 21 turns for EM, second win took 15 turns with no EM.
Post by: Jashin on December 15, 2012, 10:51:25 pm
eaglgenes101 I thought so too, but it really helped alot in some situations, one time I was on 1 hp and over 15 poison, and get purify with mindgate. I won that game :) also drawing additional steals, explosions or black holes can be a blessing.
UnderneathTheLens Quite much possible this was an inspiration for me :)
Maybe putting in an explosion will work fine? I thought about purify too, and maybe more phase shields but they're not so cheap.
Quote from: eaglgenes101
I think you should put up a reason for each card and a guide to each FG so you get fewer suggestions like the above.Edit.: So shall I do but now I'd like to play a bit :)
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 16, 2012, 05:52:53 am
Post by: iancudorinmarian on December 16, 2012, 12:33:04 pm
Post by: Jashin on December 16, 2012, 05:00:13 pm
Post by: Chapuz on December 16, 2012, 08:39:49 pm
The main differences are:
1) Many hourglasses: The party starts when you almost drew the entire deck, you need Oty + 1 yard + Druid/Eternity ASAP.
2) shields: More personal taste than any other thing. Bone wall + RoF is nice against some FGs and can give you an endgame shield, but against other ones it's useless. I prefere to get Ice shield + some healing rather than mass CC. You can mutate/resurrect 2 creatures per turn max, so the Oty is enough for skele generating and you don't have FG-dependant CC. Fog shield can save your game if you get it soon (before you get a permafrost). That foreveralone dim shield seems situational, as it all depends what you plan yo do with your bone wall.
3) Personal adds: I went for a more defensive build with 3 Sancts, 1 Antimatter and 1 BE instead of a mindgate, steals and dim shield. Well, just matter of taste I guess.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 17, 2012, 06:30:34 am
This is my entropybow version. It'll probably need some refining.
In:
Pulvy: Handles multiple early perms. If you ever need to bust a late-game perm (uncommon from my experience), use a mutant.
SN: Quick big bursts of quanta.
Out:
1 Boneyard: Streamlining.
Lightning Storm: Streamlining.
Improved Steal: Pulvy works just as well.
As for sundial, it's a cheap source of both defense and card drawing in one. It's a wonder that it's balanced as it is.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 27, 2012, 06:25:28 am
Post by: omegareaper7 on December 27, 2012, 04:51:53 pm
I want to dig this back up to save it from obscurity. This deck deserves to be remembered.why so? Seems to me to just be a slight change on scaredgirls rainbow.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on December 28, 2012, 12:37:44 am
Post by: iancudorinmarian on December 28, 2012, 10:32:07 am
Jashin is a newbie. He made a successful FG rainbow control for 1.31 (and likely 1.32). What's the last time a rainbow control was successful against FG's?Agreed, I used it the past few days and I'm impressed, it really works and it's fun too
1) It has problems with momentum decks (Graviton, Akebono)
2) It has problems against scarab decks (Osiris)
3) It's almost a free win against Incarnate and Serket.
4) It has prrblems with immortal creature (divine glory especially)
5) It has problems with FG that have 12 deflag.
6) The rest seemed to have a moderate win rate..
Ignore that, after playing some more games I realised that it can stand a chance against any FG, depends on your starting hand and the FG's.
Great deck Jashin! Fun and effective! Keep going!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 28, 2013, 12:15:42 am
Post by: iancudorinmarian on January 23, 2015, 12:25:38 pm
Just reviving this thread to post my version (I heard it's better than to start a new topic)
Will also post a video later.
Post by: iancudorinmarian on January 23, 2015, 06:26:53 pm
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Post by: serprex on January 23, 2015, 06:46:44 pm
Jashin is a newbie. He made a successful FG rainbow control for 1.31 (and likely 1.32). What's the last time a rainbow control was successful against FG's?
Rainbow control didn't get worse, & is thus as successful as it ever was. It got outpaced by faster decks using shards. Ian's video demonstrates the sluggish pace
Post by: iancudorinmarian on January 23, 2015, 08:06:41 pm
Yeah, but it's a fun deck that can beat FG when it gets going.Jashin is a newbie. He made a successful FG rainbow control for 1.31 (and likely 1.32). What's the last time a rainbow control was successful against FG's?
Rainbow control didn't get worse, & is thus as successful as it ever was. It got outpaced by faster decks using shards. Ian's video demonstrates the sluggish pace
Thanks for watching btw.