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Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [Arena][PvP][SoSe Fun!] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474358#msg474358
« on: March 26, 2012, 12:17:32 am »
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Intro:
Basically Wings/Recluses combo coupled with some SoSe and a few "Chargers" (gets progressively stronger). This deck is very capable, for it can beat down SoSac (when Elements 1.30 is live), can hold its own against rushes (most creatures in rushes aren't Airborne) as well as denials, and lots of fun with random cards from SoSe; every game is truly different!


Tips and strategies:
•Wings/Recluses and Sanctuaries are key, as they're your only defences until you make some Desirable Discoveries. Set up Hourglasses and get those cards flowing into your hands and you can potentially rush your opponent.
•Utilize your Steals wisely; don't hesitate to Steal an opponent's shield to defend yourself even if you already have Wings active or you fail to get Recluses out or they were killed by your opponent, which allow some scary flying creatures to get to you.
•Use your "Chargers" to grow up some amazing attack power; play the creatures you get from SoSe wisely.
•With SN nerfed, I think keeping the quanta costs down when possible in rainbows is mandatory, like the unupped Forest Spirit; it is only a difference of 1 attack and defence, and the slightly lowered stats will also make it a lesser kill priority of the AI.
•Keep in mind that SoSe may give you a Butterfly Effect; it may be important to keep at least 1 Forest Spirit not grown if you think your opponent may have some troublesome Permanents so you can turn your Spirit into a destroying machine (literally). <---Only applies if you have 2 Forest Spirits in V.1.1


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•You may add in an extra Purify to counter SoSa Poison Dials, for you need one to remove SoSa status from your opponent and maybe another to cleanse yourself of poison counters
•You may consider adding in a Pulverizer, since the deck is low on :earth usage. However, Pulvy takes a time to put down and activate, and by then it may have already become the victim of opponent PC. I think the Steals are sufficient PC as they are have an instantaneous effect and the deck does not have a single bit of :darkness usage at all
•The Butterfly Effect creature is currently Forest Spirit, but you may also consider Physalia, Iridium Golem, or Graviton Firemaster since they're cheap creatures and with decent abilities. I don't recommend Micro Abom (High :entropy usage from SoSa's first card and Antimatter) or Pests (due to 6 :darkness usage from Steals already) or Ray of Light due to it being costless (may mess up the mulligan).


I'm giving ralouf's Gold League Killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29406.0.html) credit for our similar decks, although we have different aims and strategies; mine's more of a Wings stall/versatile SoSac counter/SoSe random cards goodness, and his is sort of one of the original Timebows with SoSe. :)

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474381#msg474381
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2012, 01:58:11 am »
Was this the deck that I saw? XP

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474393#msg474393
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 02:47:59 am »
With SoSe garunteeing an entropy card, you are probably fine without the antimatter. With no gravity earth or darkness usage and the lack of PC, you can easily sub 1 of the purifies (still situational even with the buff) and 1 set of wings, you wont need 4 pairs with hourglasses drawing. you would replace them with either use pulvy or steals.
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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474418#msg474418
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 04:32:59 am »
SoSe can give you some shields too so I think 2 wings are enough. I did a 30 cards deck (removing antimatter, 1 purify, 2 wings, 1 flesh recluse and adding pulvy and ulty) :

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474422#msg474422
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 04:38:42 am »
This deck is pretty similar to an other deck.. ^^

Also with only 6 QT in 34 cards and 6 SoSe I fear you'll lack quanta to play all the cards you'll get. Moreover you only have 5 critters in your deck, and none of them have >3 HP when they come in play, that may be a problem (Even if with some luck you'll get way more attackers with SoSe).

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474443#msg474443
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 05:26:43 am »
Was this the deck that I saw? XP
Yup, bro! You had fun against it didn't you? ;P

With SoSe garunteeing an entropy card, you are probably fine without the antimatter. With no gravity earth or darkness usage and the lack of PC, you can easily sub 1 of the purifies (still situational even with the buff) and 1 set of wings, you wont need 4 pairs with hourglasses drawing. you would replace them with either use pulvy or steals.
I had 1 Steal in place of one of the Purifies before I posted this deck. This version is quite sloppy as I'm reviewing it along with you guys' comments, as I was just playing around to see if I liked the duo Purifies in the Trainer; I was in quite a hurry to leave to watch the Hunger Games (was amazing)! Should I follow fbparis's advice and make it a smaller deck, or should I enlarge it with 2 Steals (I really like 2 of a potentially game changing card, and the quanta is just right for 3 Supernovas; same thing applies to the Flesh Recluses). I'm thinking of adding another hourglass to cope with the potential enlargement of the deck, since it's going to be around 36 cards, like CCYB. 4 Wings should be just right (if I don't get one early I'm screwed against rushes, same with the Recluses; 4 and 3 of each of them respectively seems like a good idea to me). That lone Antimatter can change things, afterall there's only 6 Shards and 1/15 chance to get an Antimatter from the guranteed  :entropy card.

This deck is pretty similar to an other deck.. ^^

Also with only 6 QT in 34 cards and 6 SoSe I fear you'll lack quanta to play all the cards you'll get. Moreover you only have 5 critters in your deck, and none of them have >3 HP when they come in play, that may be a problem (Even if with some luck you'll get way more attackers with SoSe).

Looks fun though :D
Maybe I'll take out one SoSe, or add another QT. You do raise a good point though; maybe I should add in a cheap low attacking creature. I've already got 6  :darkness while rules out Pest; enough  :entropy with SoSe and Antimatter which eliminates Micro Abom; Physalia is an option, but I have enough usage of  :death with the Flesh Recluses; I think I'm going to go with another Forest Spirit to make  :life usuage 4 quanta!

Now I'll have some testing to do. I'll report back soon and tell you how the deck feels with these modifications.

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474447#msg474447
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 06:08:34 am »
I wanted to avoid to do it but I think this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29406.0.html) may give you some idea. I also like the last version you posted, but i'd prefer to see the spirit upped though.
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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [PvP][Arena][FG][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474451#msg474451
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 06:32:25 am »
I wanted to avoid to do it but I think this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29406.0.html) may give you some idea. I also like the last version you posted, but i'd prefer to see the spirit upped though.
I like the Spirit unupped because I'm currently using two of them, and with SN getting nerfed the faster I can play it the better. Also, it's only a 1/1 difference, and it'll be at a lower kill priority for the AI. A few Growths and they'll be exactly the same.

Woah nice decks; I sure missed out a lot while I was gone! I'll give you appropriate credit since our decks are somewhat similar, though mine is aimed more for stalling and killing SoSac.

Do you think a Pulvy is necessary? I think Steal makes for nice instant PC already, and Pulvy takes a turn to put down and activate, by then it may become a victim of opponent PC.

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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [Arena][PvP][SoSe Fun!] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474489#msg474489
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 11:39:34 am »
Yus our decks are pretty differents :)

Pulvy isn't NEEDED but it's always good to have one vs deck with a lot of annoying perms.
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Re: Desirable Discoveries Realized (DDR) [Arena][PvP][SoSe Fun!] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37760.msg474616#msg474616
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 11:04:29 pm »
An update as well as bump: I took out a Forest Spirit and Antimatter, then added a Quantum Tower and one of the SoSe I took out in V1.1 (yay more SoSe fun).

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 12:08:54 am »
Played it. Loved it. won 5 FG games in a row. Fun stuff.

 

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