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Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1201201#msg1201201
« on: August 16, 2015, 11:21:55 am »
The aim of the deck is to shut down the enemy quanta extremely early, and then take out any damage dealers they manage to get through, then use Shard of Patience to start growing your devourers. Note that burrowing your devourers will mean that they get double the attack bonus from shard of patience, since when they unburrow their damage will double!

This deck is fairly tricky to play as you will have to make a lot of judgement calls according to the situation, such as:

The use of your Siphon Lives: What creatures are worth taking out, what creatures should you siphon? When should you save it up to do a big drain on their health when you've accumulated a nice stack of dark quanta?
Burrowing devourers VS saving quanta for if you get earthquake
Which CC Spell on which creatures, (Reverse time/lightning/e.t.c.) or whether to save it for a more significant creature

There is a lot of room for variation such as with steals instead of siphon lives, skull shield+thunderstorm instead of fog shield for more CC, Sundials instead of reverse time, removing mitosis for another quantum pillar e.t.c., earth mark and more earthquakes+maybe pulvy.

The variants I don't like very much are the scarab variant which uses scarab, since by the time you get scarabs+SoP out its usually fairly late in the game, and earth mark is less reliable since you wont be able to get any devourers out on a bad draw. I see some people recommend arsenic instead of discord, but discord is so good against mono decks that don't have a lot of quanta, and delay them by a couple of turns while doing not too much less damage than arsenic. The sundial variant is also very good and it makes the deck more streamlined, but reverse time is also a very strong card that ties in with the denial theme of the deck.

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After second thoughts something like this might work better:

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Re: Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1201301#msg1201301
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 03:52:50 am »
Seems pretty strong, but must fall hard on its face if you don't draw a SoP. Anti-Fun indeed but I like it haha.
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Re: Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1201308#msg1201308
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 09:56:21 am »
Seems pretty strong, but must fall hard on its face if you don't draw a SoP. Anti-Fun indeed but I like it haha.

Sometimes you don't need to draw SoP too early, if you shut down your opponent fast enough you can take however long you need to draw it. Even if you don't shut them down completely you can often hold out for a while with your CC, and your quanta denial should still somewhat slow them, but PC can be threatening. You'll still get one tick of the SoP at least which if you burrowed your devourers means +4 per devourer, so even in that case, not all is lost.

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Re: Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1201327#msg1201327
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2015, 12:02:17 pm »
Nice deck, looks fun (unless you're facing it of course).

But yeah, I do agree with UndeadSpider about the SoPs. If you don't draw one relatively early, then your four or five Devourers on the field (since it's unlikely you'll get all six out immediately unless you draw Mitosis, but that's a special case) simply won't get enough boosts to break through healing/actually kill the opponent. Three is a good number since that basically means there will be one in every ten cards (so theoretically you'll get one within your first five draws). But that's just me, I haven't actually tried the deck yet, maybe two is sufficient.
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Re: Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1201365#msg1201365
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2015, 05:09:40 pm »
Nice deck, looks fun (unless you're facing it of course).

But yeah, I do agree with UndeadSpider about the SoPs. If you don't draw one relatively early, then your four or five Devourers on the field (since it's unlikely you'll get all six out immediately unless you draw Mitosis, but that's a special case) simply won't get enough boosts to break through healing/actually kill the opponent. Three is a good number since that basically means there will be one in every ten cards (so theoretically you'll get one within your first five draws). But that's just me, I haven't actually tried the deck yet, maybe two is sufficient.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll try a variant with one more SoP in place of a sundial and see how it goes. I often have games where I shut down the other guy and make him powerless, then we both just sit there with nothing happening while I wait for the SoP draw  :D

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Re: Denialbow of Patience [Anti-fun] [Unupped] [PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59185.msg1213065#msg1213065
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 10:23:07 pm »
The Oracle gave me the Sundial card, and my only completely upped deck is Pestal (and Pestosis) so I came up with a 35 card variation of denialbow:
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It's currently #1 in platinum (with 2x draw, 2x mark)  8) so I thought it was worth posting.
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