Putting the "Speed" in Speedbow: Elder Destruction 101

[Higurashi]

I've fallen for the T50 version now as well. The versatility of TU and Crusader got me. And when I get to TU a Vader Sader, a CP'd Shrieker or a huge Destroyer/Spectre, it just makes me happy inside. Also, Wings, Uli and PC slows the pace down for Hourglass to be epic. I've tried to get an Hourglass to work in speedbows before, but they were too rushy. Best T50 speedbow evar.

Oh oh, also, Wings are letting me have about 40000% more EM's. Just play it earlier when against stallbows and that last turn Pulvy does NUFFIN'. Even some firestalls won't do any damage with Fahren if you time it right. It's much thanks to the number of perms and PC in this deck. Yeah, take that.

Also, I use 2 CP's in it. They're better for keeping something alive, buffing right before TU (preferably Vader Sader), or reducing the devastating effect AM can have on this deck (and all speedbows).

[pervepic]

Great deck, almost like mine  . Differences are only that I used 2 Steals and Discord (didn't have Chaos Power and Stiletto) and I also used an Angel instead of Crusader. But Crusader seems like a good idea, I should try that.

[willng3]

Also, I use 2 CP's in it. They're better for keeping something alive, buffing right before TU (preferably Vader Sader), or reducing the devastating effect AM can have on this deck (and all speedbows).

Yeah chances are I'm not going to use a Werewolf in a Speedbow like ever again without very good reason
Chaos Power just seems to do its job 100x better.

Great deck, almost like mine  . Differences are only that I used 2 Steals and Discord (didn't have Chaos Power and Stiletto) and I also used an Angel instead of Crusader. But Crusader seems like a good idea, I should try that.

Lol I love getting your deck in T50 because yeah, I noticed they're so dang similar xD  But yeah, the Crusader probably doubles the fun factor of the deck just because it's that awesome of a card

[Jappert]

Having alot of fun with your deck Will. Kudo's for that!

I think this screenie illustrates why this deck is fun:


What's that saying? A picture says more then a thousand words? Either way, this deck deserves a spot in the T50 deck-list.

[willng3]

Holy...that's insane, Jap

I'll see what I can do about about the deck list for T50.  Until then I've added a little segment about the T50 version under the Q&A section since I can't think of where else to put it there.

I'm so tempted to get a bigger Destroyer now

[pikachufan2164]

I was playing with the T50 version earlier today, and misclicked on AI5. I won, and was pleasantly surprised. After further attempts at AI5, I found that the deck actually has enough staying power to get to 200 damage before the AI has a chance to reach 100. The Wings-Web combo is just too amazing for words when it comes to damage-blocking efficiency, and the touch of healing provided by Vampire Dagger and Endowed Crusader are enough for the deck to survive and win the damage race.

~15 games of AI5 played with the T50 deck, and I managed to win all of them. The majority of those games were quite close (ended with <40 HP), but Web+Wings is just so good at stalling out.

[Braingoo]

I worked on it a little to try to make it more suitable for level 5s, and so far I'm having a pretty decent win rate, and EM isn't uncommon. A lot more easily achieved with the various methods of healing I've added. I know a lot of you don't like decks with 31+ cards, but this has been mostly effective for me. Of course input is always appreciated.

by Braingoo

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- Removed vamp dagger because of added heals (antimatter, improved heal, liquid shadow)

- Removed Wyrm for +1 Eagle Eye, to compliment;
- Removed charger for Elite Otyugh

- Removed everything  in favor of an added Uli's lobotomize and a Twin Universe to either copy a strong enemy creature, but it really shines when being used to copy a high power creature I've built up and turned into a vampire. Having two vamps each bringing in 20HP or more each turn has proven to be nothing but a savior and an almost guaranteed EM. I've had up to +60hp/turn just from two golem vamps. There's something very satisfying about getting an EM win when just two turns ago you were 5hp away from dying.

- Added cloak, self explanatory

- Turtle shield, self explanatory

- Hourglass, self explanatory


I'm thinking of maybe using elite mummies in favor of fresh recluses, to have a counter for those pesky rewinds. Maybe get a new shield to free up some 

[Higurashi]

Myeah, Improved Fog would be better than Turtle Shield. If you like LS'ing, you can consider a Chimera. Works awesomely with TU'ing huge creatures. Speed is often better than control, and Chimera reduces the need for Explosions/Steal. Another HG would be good for it as well.

[Braingoo]

Without a quintessence a chimera would be a very dangerous addition, wouldn't it? A rewind, antimatter or twin universe would make it backfire in your face pretty hard. The otyugh has served me very well, too, and it uses a substantial amount of  this deck typically produces, especially if it gets played early game against a swarm opponent. If I can figure out a way to work it in but still have effective CC I'd definitely try it out at least. I really like Chimera, too. I fell in love when I created one that ended up being something like 60/100. I just hardly ever use it 

Is it possible to play another creature and use gravity pull on it to take the GP away from the chimera?

[Higurashi]

Yes, but you only play Chimera as an EM finisher.

[Braingoo]

I was just about to edit my post to see if that's what you meant. Guess that answers my question 

[Braingoo]

I'm really loving Chimera. It's saved me more times than I can count, and raised my EM rate in the process

On another good note, when your opponent tries to twin universe your chimera it makes his own out of HIS creatures, instead of directly copying yours. Unless they have a lot of strong creatures on the field a TU is nothing to worry about. Antimatter on the other hand...