Post by: Chapuz on July 21, 2012, 08:10:07 pm
An adrenalined doll attacks 5 times (yeah), so it regenerates 10 HP per purify per turn.
Sundials are life savers when you need a doll to regenerat for turn or wait for a needed card for another turn before or after pulling the combo.
(http://s9.postimage.org/db9oe3y5r/Imagen_7.png)
(http://s11.postimage.org/syayaux3n/Imagen_6.png)
(http://s16.postimage.org/fknk1s2g5/Imagen_6.png)
(http://s9.postimage.org/wdba01y27/Imagen_4.png)
(http://s14.postimage.org/772pfthpd/Imagen_6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/P3UQH.png)
(http://s7.postimage.org/5s7imu77v/Imagen_4.png)
Enjoy ;D
Post by: Vineroz on July 21, 2012, 08:23:16 pm
Post by: Chapuz on July 21, 2012, 08:35:06 pm
It would be nice to see the idea worked out as I had failed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39850.0.html).Oh I haven't seen your deck before. They work quite different, your is an OTK build with a 0 cost creature and an Eternity to pull the combo till the oponent dies and this one has a similar build to the VD+BB+GP+TU combo.
Post by: furballdn on July 21, 2012, 09:07:47 pm
Perhaps some novas?
Post by: Chapuz on July 21, 2012, 09:49:02 pm
Is 10hp gain per turn enough? From what I've seen, using focus shield and even a +15 gain in hp per turn doesn't seem enough. Then again, you have BB, dials, unupped meta, and voodoo, so I suppose it could work.You don't play a GPd doll as soon as you get it, you play it with at least 1 BB and 2 Purifies alltogether (there are exceptions, depending on the game. Pharaoh decks use to be one of them). Belive me, it does work against most PVP1 decks: creatury creatures, mono aether with immaterials, Shreiker rush without RT, etc.
Perhaps some novas?
About novas, my little experience says they don't fit well with the Sundials and there are needed 4 to play the adrenaline.
Post by: furballdn on July 21, 2012, 09:50:03 pm
Post by: Chapuz on July 21, 2012, 09:53:00 pm
Swap out 3-4 pillars for nova, swap mark to life, and remove a purify?what for? I don't have quanta issues with this build
Post by: furballdn on July 21, 2012, 09:53:37 pm
Post by: Chapuz on July 21, 2012, 10:06:33 pm
I always prefer nova for more consistency in unupped rainbows. I am always suspicious of QPs. If you say you have no problem, that's fine.starting with 1 pilar makes it a bit longer and sometimes I have to discard a pair of cards, but the same would happen with only 1 early nova.
Post by: Luminous on July 22, 2012, 07:35:39 am
Is 10hp gain per turn enough? From what I've seen, using focus shield and even a +15 gain in hp per turn doesn't seem enough. Then again, you have BB, dials, unupped meta, and voodoo, so I suppose it could work.You can always put more purifies. Think voodoo has 6 purifies. 60 Regen per turn.
Perhaps some novas?
@Chapuz
Are you currently testing it against pvp1,or can I run 30 game test?
Post by: Chapuz on July 22, 2012, 02:35:16 pm
Are you currently testing it against pvp1,or can I run 30 game test?I didn't make stats, but I played tones of games with it (or similar versions). What I can say is: You can face tones of Psion decks, EQs and some others with RT, maybe losing 3 in a row, or you can face other common PVP 1 winning 6 in a row. It depends basically in the deck you face (as every doll+GP+BB deck) and not starting with a single pilar against well build rushes. To be sincere, I don't know what's exactly the advantage against the classic doll+BB+GP+TU deck except the high amount of quanta you need for the PUs. This is a fun deck, pretty annoying for the oponent when ir works.
I would say it wins 75% of the games though.
Post by: Luminous on July 22, 2012, 03:36:17 pm
Lol'd here. :P
An adrenalined doll attacks 5 times (yeah), so it regenerates 10 HP per purify per turn.
Sundials are life savers when you need a doll to regenerate a bit more a turn, wait for an extra BB or purify or make some time if you are gonna lose in the next turn.(http://s9.postimage.org/db9oe3y5r/Imagen_7.png)
(http://s7.postimage.org/5s7imu77v/Imagen_4.png)
Enjoy ;D
Post by: Chapuz on July 22, 2012, 04:11:27 pm
EDIT: Added 7 screenies, screenies are cool.
Post by: Rutarete on August 10, 2012, 04:39:29 pm
Post by: Graub on August 10, 2012, 08:47:07 pm
Edit: nevermind. now i see
"10 HP per purify per turn."
didnt know that... i will completely try this deck XD
Edit2: I guess it would be better change mark to :life
5 purifies cost 10 :water
3 adrenalines cost 12 :life
It costs more then you need life faster. But i guess thats because purify comes before adrenaline (multiple attack does nothing without the heal).
I will try both anyway :D
I believe the adrenaline is so the opponent's monsters will attack more on your voodoo doll.
that ruins the "useless adrenaline without heal" theory :P
Post by: Coffeeditto on August 10, 2012, 08:54:38 pm
Post by: furballdn on August 10, 2012, 09:00:39 pm
I believe the adrenaline is so the opponent's monsters will attack more on your voodoo doll.No, it's so the voodoo doll regenerates more hp.
Post by: Chapuz on August 10, 2012, 09:17:49 pm
I believe the adrenaline is so the opponent's monsters will attack more on your voodoo doll.If the oponent has really really low attack that he won't reach 100 damage till the end of the game, then you can adrenaline an oponent's creature. The first one, though, will go to the voodoo doll 99% of the games, so it regenerates 5x purify counters per turn (10 per turn per purify).
By the way, here is the other 1%:
(http://i.imgur.com/ejnbZ.png)
I guess it would be better change mark to :life95% of the games, you will only need 1 Adrenaline (for the doll), so you will need more :water than :life. On the other hand, you need 4 :life pretty early, so it's also an option.
5 purifies cost 10 :water
3 adrenalines cost 12 :life
Post by: Annele on August 10, 2012, 09:20:24 pm
Also loled at 3rd screenie
Post by: bobknows on August 14, 2012, 10:13:49 pm
any ideas to make it better?
upped are because of what I have and what really makes a difference, gpull and BB are essentially the same unupped with a snova quanta base.
Post by: Chapuz on August 15, 2012, 02:20:33 am
i have been trying a semi-upped version with Snovas run off a mark, and it seems to be doing well.You may wanna have the upped purifies, they cost 2 unupped!
any ideas to make it better?
upped are because of what I have and what really makes a difference, gpull and BB are essentially the same unupped with a snova quanta base.
Post by: Luminous on August 15, 2012, 04:48:50 am
He is right. Other than that,-1 BB because voodoo can regenerate a lot. Make it 30 cards.i have been trying a semi-upped version with Snovas run off a mark, and it seems to be doing well.You may wanna have the upped purifies, they cost 2 unupped!
any ideas to make it better?
upped are because of what I have and what really makes a difference, gpull and BB are essentially the same unupped with a snova quanta base.
Post by: Graub on August 15, 2012, 05:38:30 pm
Post by: Chapuz on August 15, 2012, 06:28:05 pm
Im trying to convert 6 QP in 6 Novas to PVP1. It seems fine to meThere are 2 disadvantages doind that:
1) No nova = no Sundial optimiation
2) You must have a :water mark, so you need 4 Novas or 3 and some luck to play an early Adrenaline.
Post by: Phoenix on August 15, 2012, 07:26:03 pm
Post by: Chapuz on August 15, 2012, 07:35:41 pm
lol green nymph 3/46I had to turn it off, it would have outdamage my doll if I didn't :P
Post by: ninjaisland on August 19, 2012, 08:56:08 am
Post by: furballdn on August 19, 2012, 05:29:04 pm
how would you say this deck would work in pvp2 fully upped?There's better decks to use in pvp2. I doubt the healing will be enough as creatures ratch up the damage speed much faster in pvp2. You'd also want to perhaps use SNs or just novas since everything would be cheaper.