Post by: Scaredgirl on July 08, 2010, 05:29:22 pm
Your problems are now in the past. Let me present to you..
Pillarless Nova/Devourer Rainbow
I wanted to make a Pillarless deck that used only six novas and a mark to pay for cards. I quickly realized that I need more quanta in order to do enough damage. Going :darkness and taking Devourers was only choice here because I did need something else to give me quanta to play more expensive creatures, in this case dragons.
I took 2-4 quanta worth of cards from each element (except :light) with one card costing a maximum of 2 quanta. This ensure that I will be able to play them relatively early even if I get a bad opening hand.
With this deck you usually have 1-2 Novas and 1-2 Devourers in each opening hand. If you have less than that, you might be in trouble.
I really would have wanted to test this in PvP but unfortunately I don't have a single unupped Arsenic in any of my three accounts. Yea.. I like upped Arsenics. :)
Strengths:
- well-rounded
- lots of creatures, creature control, and permanent removal
- fast starter
Weaknesses:
- No major weaknesses that I know of
- quite slow in actually killing the opponent
Customization:
- Replace Druidic Staff with something else (I just took it because I didn't use :life for anything else)
-Maybe try Ulitharid instead of Freeze? (also drop Lightnings if you do this, maybe take an Reverse Time..)
I haven't done any scientific testing yet so there might be some things that need a bit of tweaking. But I did play a bunch of matches against AI3 and won all of them.
Post by: Anothebrother on July 08, 2010, 06:19:58 pm
Post by: Scaredgirl on July 08, 2010, 06:23:00 pm
you probably know this...but just in case... if you were looking to test this in PVP1 you could still enter with an upped arsenic and the game engine will just "un-up" it for youAh.. yes of course. I forgot about that. :) Thanks.
Post by: Retribution on July 08, 2010, 06:31:21 pm
Instead of, say, a fog shield.
And maybe a heal/horned frog instead of druidic staff?
Post by: Dragoon1140 on July 08, 2010, 06:40:28 pm
How about a mirror shield or a blessing for light?Fog Shield is vital for a deck like this, for its cost it is the best cost-blocking ratio in the game.
Instead of, say, a fog shield.
And maybe a heal/horned frog instead of druidic staff?
Post by: Retribution on July 08, 2010, 06:43:22 pm
Well, there's two fog shields, but I guess I know what you mean.How about a mirror shield or a blessing for light?Fog Shield is vital for a deck like this, for its cost it is the best cost-blocking ratio in the game.
Instead of, say, a fog shield.
And maybe a heal/horned frog instead of druidic staff?
Still, blessing could be useful and mirror shield would counter specific decks, but if it's for AI grinding mirror shield is relatively useless.
Post by: Anothebrother on July 08, 2010, 06:45:08 pm
however, if you do want to make it a bit faster i think you could scrap a weapon and always steal one if you're really in need...also i'd like to see another creature or two like maybe a frog or a gargoyle or a 2nd lycanthrope or maybe even a deja vu or phase spider...idk its probably not supposed to be fast and i just want it to be faster :/
Post by: Scaredgirl on July 08, 2010, 07:14:45 pm
Fog Shield is one of the most important cards in this deck. And that frog does only 3 damage making a random crappy card.Well, there's two fog shields, but I guess I know what you mean.How about a mirror shield or a blessing for light?Fog Shield is vital for a deck like this, for its cost it is the best cost-blocking ratio in the game.
Instead of, say, a fog shield.
And maybe a heal/horned frog instead of druidic staff?
Still, blessing could be useful and mirror shield would counter specific decks, but if it's for AI grinding mirror shield is relatively useless.
tried it out a bit... i think the object is control not speed (I usually expect speed in pillarless rainbows)...Yep, it's definitely a control deck all the way. You simply play the Devourers and kill any creatures or nasty permanents your opponent plays. After a while you can afford to play those Dragons and then you win.
however, if you do want to make it a bit faster i think you could scrap a weapon and always steal one if you're really in need...also i'd like to see another creature or two like maybe a frog or a gargoyle or a 2nd lycanthrope or maybe even a deja vu or phase spider...idk its probably not supposed to be fast and i just want it to be faster :/
Post by: Thelonesun on July 09, 2010, 07:56:12 pm
Post by: eh pewwwp on July 10, 2010, 03:08:07 am
Post by: Bloodshadow on July 10, 2010, 06:14:36 am
Hm, I might actually try this out, since I have all the rares required in this deck.
Post by: Scaredgirl on July 10, 2010, 02:34:27 pm
i feel there's not enough creature control. am i wrong? and if I'm not, could u add a BB, so its like freeze but a few extra turns?In my opinion it's the opposite. This deck has 6 creature control cards which is a lot in a 30 card deck. You will notice this when fighting opponent that has no creatures you can target, and you have 6 useless cards in your deck.
Sure you can take BB instead of Freeze, but then your Devourers cannot burrow as much.
Post by: xxxdeathxxx on July 10, 2010, 03:40:32 pm
Post by: Chatix on July 11, 2010, 06:28:41 pm
because my dragons get lightninged alot by Aether,
which isn't very handy, cause we only put 3 in.
And we dont do anything with :light so maybe that would help?
But overall, it's really very good!
Post by: killfer8 on July 11, 2010, 07:07:13 pm
can this farm t50?It does farm t50 but it is too slow and you need the devourers fast otherwise the enemy will kill you
Post by: strikerz76 on July 11, 2010, 07:17:34 pm
Post by: Chatix on July 12, 2010, 01:00:04 pm
Looks like a nice deck, only what is a bb?BB is Basilisk Blood :)
Post by: strikerz76 on July 13, 2010, 12:06:23 am
Post by: Scaredgirl on July 13, 2010, 05:46:07 am
Yeah, this deck is definitely too slow. I wouldn't use it to anything other than PvP.can this farm t50?It does farm t50 but it is too slow and you need the devourers fast otherwise the enemy will kill you
Post by: Chatix on July 13, 2010, 09:24:25 am
and my win/lose ratio is now 25-5 I have to say, It is really very good,
because I only lost to bad luck or bad draws!
Thanks SG
Post by: iKevinly on July 15, 2010, 05:04:28 pm
Post by: Chatix on July 22, 2010, 04:41:04 pm
;D Nothin' like good ol' cheap creature control. It seems like a solid deck actually but yeah, I'd switch out the Druid Staff since you have one steal and another weapon for your likings.SG said it was there because she didn't do anything with :life and so something had to be done with it, she chose Druidic Staff, which i prefer, since it's the only card that can heal, and if you only have 1 weapon and steal, and the opponent doesn't play any, then the chances to draw your Arsenic is very slim.
Post by: Chatix on July 22, 2010, 04:45:02 pm
I though Blessing/Plate Armor might be good,
I was thinking about tinkering with this deck,
but it's almost perfect, though one of those cards could be a good addition :D
Post by: Xelax on July 22, 2010, 04:59:45 pm
Post by: plastiqe on July 22, 2010, 05:11:55 pm
Responding to previous posters, I would not put in anything that cost more than 2 of any type of quanta other than Darkness. You'll often just find an expensive card stuck in your hand while you're waiting for novas otherwise. I usually skip Light in unupped rainbows because Blessing is only meh & Reflective Shield is too sideboardy. And I dunno how anyone can say this doesn't have enough CC, this deck is loaded with CC. If anything I think the deck is lacking offense, because if the opponent can deal with a dragon or two you're in trouble.
I suggest running a Nightfall. It'd allow the Devourers to peck away and get the dragons to the all important 6hp level. Also I would use a second Reverse Time over a third Freeze in this deck.
Post by: Rainbowz on July 22, 2010, 06:02:08 pm
Post by: Rainbowz on July 22, 2010, 09:13:43 pm
Post by: Chatix on July 24, 2010, 01:37:00 pm
what would you up?
And I really love this deck, my ratio is: 63|19 :D
Post by: Chatix on July 24, 2010, 01:38:20 pm
Great Job. I tried it and it's pretty good for a pillarless deck. Just out of curiosity.... Which do you prefer... Novas or SuperNovas? I prefer Novas, cost nothing.I agree: Nova's,
because they don't cost anything like you said,
and otherwise,
if you had Super Nova's this deck would be impossible to play.