Pharaoh sails to Orion (time/rainbow)

[Xinef]

But i've done like 12 T50 and i only got some cards and 2 rare weapons but I NEED shards!

12 is not very much... with a good deck you should be able to win each game in about 2-3 minutes, so approximately 20 games per hour... if some top50 players put shard farms you should be able to grind some shards in a few hours...
Or, if you have a lot of cash to spare, and don't care about your win/loss ratio, you can just quit every top50 fight against a non-shard-farm-player... this way you should be able to win shards even faster, but still don't expect like 6 shards in an hour.

[yaladilae]

Was trying to make a point that alot of FG have no permanent control, so 2 PA is really enough

In fact, puppy's orginal rainbow has no PA and it still ran very very well !

[Xinef]

Well... my deck without PA would lose against any FG with permanent cotrol, because eternity is the most important card... my victory against octane when I was bumping a pharaoh proves that even pharaoh is not needed to win (I could have bumped any creature), but eternity needs to survive...
But more PA really help against Divine Glory, Rainbow, Hermes, sometimes Octane, and probably could help against Obliterator if he plays a protected pulvy late enough... while I don't feel harmed much by PA when fighting against FG without permanent control, because I can discard it or play it on anything, and draw more cards...

I have 6 hourglasses for a reason - I use them to protect SoGs, shields and bonds from destruction, and I use them to draw cards as fast as possible (even if I have 7 cards in my hand I usually draw and eventually discard something less useful, if what I draw is not a pillar or something I can play - I only stop drawing cards when I either want to wait a while to gather quanta, or when I want to be able to use eternity a few times on my opponent before I have to start bumping).
I even sometimes play an eternity over an eternity, or a fog shield over a fog shield, or play a few sundials at once, just so that I can draw more cards before my hand is full

[yaladilae]

I am purposing 2 PA, not free
I believe PA is needed

Oh keep farming, you can get pharoah from FG now (Oisrius), and fair high chance too
(I got 1 in 30minute farm)

[Xinef]

I know you advise 2 PA, not none... you simply mentioned a rainbow without PA, so I replied to that one statement.

Though I really feel I would lose so many games without that third PA... eg. I just won for the first time against Obliterator (he had a slow start and played a protected pulvy quite late), and I would have lost without that one protected bond... you can see it was a really close game... and I just noticed Obli is really hard for one more reason - basalt dragons are so big it's hard to eat them
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58087/Obli)
I also noticed a funny little thing you can do against gravity pulling gods... play a creature the turn you play a sundial, FG casts a gravity pull on it, you rewind the creature and thus FG has one less gravity pull... how great it would be if they were still playing all gravity pulls at once ...


About the new FGs... dream catcher seems harder than obli
neptune is damn easy (he probably is with any deck with quint+permanent destruction), and it's sooo easy to card-lock him (he keeps those shock waves and congeals in his hand)... I even won with a really bad draw and quint was last... so I had to bump gravy until my eternity and quinted mummy killed him (though I guess I need those pharaohs for such situations)...

[yaladilae]

Dream catcher can have a real bad draw, which can be easy

My own deck is 2-1 against him (1 game he went insane)

And I got a pharoah, reli reli reli tempted to build the deck i had before (I have the electum too)
Just dont want to abandon my signature deck after I did so much work and testing LOL

[Xinef]

Heh... I'm just wondering if my deck needs to adjust anything to work better with new FGs...

Neptune? Nope...
Osiris? Deck him out...
Dram Catcher? I still wonder...
Eternal Phoenix? Not yet fought...
Decay? Not yet fought...

By the way, I'm interested in your variants statistics... yours is probably more stable and faster against easy gods, but does it work against the harder ones as good as mine?

[Baily18]

I just got beat up by Eternal Pheonix and Decay testing this in trainer. if you devour pheonixes theyll just reborn and it blitzes you quickly. Since there arent many quantum towers, Decay sucked up everything cause i didnt draw permafrost

[Xinef]

You can beat Eternal Phoenix with a good enough draw... right now I'm 1-1 with him, though It's possible I was just very lucky with that victory.
Heh... Permafrost once again saves the day
And once you eat dragons he loses a lot offensive power... and phoenixes are great food for scarabs, so you can quickly start eating ashes.

(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58353/EP1) (http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58352/EP2) (http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58351/EP3) (http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58350/EP4) (http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd58349/EP5)

As for decay, I have yet to face him, though I guess he will be hard, unless you draw more quantum pillars in the beginning... and even then it will be hard to play an hourglass or something similarly vital... and with creatures being played so late I guess he will gather enough quanta to kill me with drain lifes before I start playing scarabs...
Though these are only my guesses based on his deck.

[CB!]

Just a suggestion, but I've added a unupped mummy to this deck as you can use butterfly effect on a 2/N scarab... and the butterfly scarab keeps getting the HP bonus for more scarabs put into play...

[Xinef]

I used an unupped mummy in one variant of my deck, but even though it allows for a butterfly-scarab and you only need 2 against Maxwell daemons, not 3, I still think both upped is better for a few reasons:

- higher attack means faster victories, especially against gods using miracles or damage blocking shields (and might on occasions allow you to eg. defeat a god before he kills you)
- upgraded mummy is cheaper to play (3 instead of 4 )
- you still need something to bump if you were unable to start producing scarabs early enough, so I wouldn't recommend removing graviton firemaster

Though if you use pharaohs instead of mummies second point is out and third point is less important (you can bump a pharaoh 10 time towers + mark + 6 quantum pillars is enough to do it infinitely).

PS.: + Super Karma for you...
PS2.: I'm working on the original post to update it, and I'll soon make some statistics as I only need to upgrade 5 more pillars.

[Xinef]

1 quint added, I think it is better than anubis, because with such a setup you need both quint and anubis to start playing anything... and if either happens to be near the bottom of your deck, you end up with many dead cards in your hand.
2 quints might actually allow you to start pharaoh-combo earlier and with less cards in your hand you might be able to draw cards more often, so I hope this addition does not harm drawing speed/consistency.
Also, 2 quints is enough to defeat all FGs and the reason why this deck needs either an anubis+quint or 2 quints is that without it Graviton is really hard and Neptune is really slow against other gods it might help but probably does not change much.

By the way, do you like the new layout of the first post?