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Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407341#msg407341
« on: October 10, 2011, 03:08:23 am »
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So, this is a bow I've been working on upgrading. It does really well for Gold, and Ok for platinum.
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What are your thoughts? Should I put in a second Amber nymph?
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The following is mainly for me: Since I plan on making more Nymphbows, I think making a general outline will help me. As more are bubilt, the outline will surely change.
5-7 Nymphs
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Re: My Nymphbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407374#msg407374
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 04:11:58 am »
As you're not using the gravity quanta for anything else... might as well, as long as you think it'll help.

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Re: My Nymphbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407392#msg407392
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 04:46:35 am »
Dude, if you have a second amber nymph, for sure put it in the deck :)  It's basically an instant win against rainbow, particularly if you quint it.  It's very strong against duos as well, though not so much with monodecks, but even there, it's good, and you have discords as well, which increases its power even more.  Maybe fit another discord or two in, particularly as your mark is entropy you can reliably play it early.

I tried a deck kind of like this once with all my nymphs, but it didn't work out so well.  I'm pretty surprised you can manage to compete against gold with it.

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Re: My Nymphbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407736#msg407736
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 10:52:13 pm »
Dude, if you have a second amber nymph, for sure put it in the deck :)  It's basically an instant win against rainbow, particularly if you quint it.  It's very strong against duos as well, though not so much with monodecks, but even there, it's good, and you have discords as well, which increases its power even more.  Maybe fit another discord or two in, particularly as your mark is entropy you can reliably play it early.

I tried a deck kind of like this once with all my nymphs, but it didn't work out so well.  I'm pretty surprised you can manage to compete against gold with it.
With the decks in Gold changing constantly, it's a lot of luck that it has competed well so far. I'd like to add the second Amber nymph, but i fear that the deck would be getting a bit fat. I'll do some tests though; if I were to keep it at 35 cards, what would be best to take out for the second nymph?
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Re: My Nymphbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407751#msg407751
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 11:07:19 pm »
I would suggest the nymph queen, unless you're finding it really helps you late game.
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Re: My Nymphbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg407781#msg407781
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 12:20:00 am »
Now to try it out against Rainbow (My predicted FG of the day).
Changes from OP:
+ Amber
- Nymph Queen
+ Forest Spectre (previously taken out due to competing for :water with queen)
A quantum pillar has also been upgraded.
Edit: Even with early quinted Amber, I got overrun before I could draw a Purple nymph :(
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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg442299#msg442299
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2011, 03:19:53 am »
Yes, I know it's a necro, but I think it's better to keep whatever nymphbows I create grouped together.

So, that said, with the addition of a  :time, :air, and :life nymph, I decided to make a new version (also in OP):
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I've been trying to find a balance/flow of cards like the first one has, but with different nymphs and focus. What suggestions do you have for this one?
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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg442305#msg442305
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2011, 03:48:46 am »
As a personal bias, anything with golden nymphs loves lots and lots of SoRs.

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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg442322#msg442322
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2011, 05:20:38 am »
So, new changes:
+3 SoR (I only have 4)
- Life Pend
- Life Tower
- Time Factory
- Recluse
+ Quantum Pillar

The SoRs help a lot overall, but doesn't really improve the deck flow as much as I'd like.
I think I should trim the deck size down a bit. But what to remove?
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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg442326#msg442326
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2011, 05:34:10 am »
Yes the shard of readiness are a great addition for a rainbow nymph deck. But that deck is sure heavy on mana .... how do you manage this ? I have a lot of nymph already , but I would pu something like 20 quantom tower ... and of course some sanctuary to protect my mana base. Not sure if I would use supernova or not.

Good idea anyway ...

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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg443391#msg443391
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 10:41:16 pm »
Yes the shard of readiness are a great addition for a rainbow nymph deck. But that deck is sure heavy on mana .... how do you manage this ? Now that I look at it from a quanta-wide perspective, the first deck was built like a rush (Not intentionally)
I have a lot of nymph already , but I would pu something like 20 quantom tower ... and of course some sanctuary to protect my mana base. Not sure if I would use supernova or not.

Good idea anyway ...
Nymphbow#2 Version 2 is here! (in OP)
Switching the 4 SN for quantum pillars really helped the starting hand, bringing the average from 1-2 to 2-4, which = big improvement. (I had 4 SN inthe most recent testing). Only new upped cards since last time pertaining to this are Pulvy and a quantum pillar. So, now that #2 has it's focus, what fine-tuning suggestions do you have?
With the lack of Supernovas, I'm not sure it's the best idea to leave the mark as :entropy. Could I fit an SOG or 2 in for a mark of life without making the deck too big? What are your thoughts?
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Re: Nymphbows https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32245.msg446704#msg446704
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 06:37:01 pm »
If you were to do that I would (in my humble opinion)
swap two quantum pillars for SoGs and then a third for an entropy pendulum.
That way you could keep the deck size constant.

 

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