My own [Tactics] deck

[UncleBero]

Hello!

I`m in the last phase od improving my deck, so please give me some advices

My deck:

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[TheIdioticIdiot]

this is ridiculously huge...
might want to slim it down, even with the hourglasses

also, shouldn't this be in the deck help section?

[Lionheart]

Focus on 1 Strategy:
Do u wanna Improve MC'S / Firefly's or grow Destroyers asap? Its just too big to b effectiv

[johannhowitzer]

Size does not necessarily determine effectiveness.  I run a 55-card rainbow for killing FGs, got a really decent win rate.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

Size does not necessarily determine effectiveness.  I run a 55-card rainbow for killing FGs, got a really decent win rate.

size doesn't necessarily determine effectiveness
but the number of main focuses does
one is usually ideal
two can be ok

this deck has more than three... which is a lot of be focusing on...

[7wavemaster]

Well it could actually help like one tactic isn't going well so you can switch.

[Tea is good]

but can you switch fast enough to be effective. That's the real reason why having multiple foci doesn't work. If a rush deck (or FG) has one focus, it can kill you while you switch from failing to rush, to stalling, growing or mutating.

[johannhowitzer]

He does seem to have a focus, with some other cards spread across the different quantum types so as not to waste anything.  (Which is what rainbows do.)  He's focusing on Mindgate and stalling.  Problem is, not enough stall cards to make a difference often enough in a deck this big.

Here's the rainbow I run... it packs less towers, but is a smaller deck.

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[UncleBero]

nice deck my idea was:

Use opponents own cards before he will - mindgates
Make my moves faster- hourglasses
If I can1t pay like this I focus on power-upping lava golem, forest spirit, gravition firemaster
Also i gain quickly useful cards by combo alflatoxin/fallen druid
I`m also making same changes in deck to have combo otyugh/graveyard, when I can`t play aflatoxin
I though about selling deflagration and 1 mindgate and buy 2 graveyards do you agree?

[funplay]

while it is true that big doesnt always mean ineffective, i still think this deck is too big, as you wont draw the urgently needed cards when you actually need them...

ideas how to shrink the deck:

- you use 5 growing creatures in this deck...if you shrink the deck enough (and maybe add 1 or 2 quint) you will still draw them (and actually KEEP them when quinted)

- mindgates are fun...but most of the time they wont win the match for you. even if you want to keep them: shrink that deck and 2 will be enough

- 3 druids...again: shrink, keep 1 (again quint can help)

-> about number of creatures: i understand that it might be good to have some copies due to enemies Creature control...but if your creatures are killed, you just lost a card...so either you have plenty (much more as you have now), so you can accept the loss (like rush decks do) OR you find a way to protect you precious creatures (QUINTESSENCE ftw!). 2-3 carefully used creatures can win a whole game!

As your build is more or less about building up combos, i would strongly recommend quintessence

other cards:
crusader is nice...but unprotected not of that much value?
a single flying weapon wont help you actually win the game? if you are afaid of PC vs. your eternity a single enchant artifact will do...

i doubt the value of the dissipation shield...if you already have the upper hand...it just drains your quanta
if you are overwhelmed, it drains your essential quanta to set up your combos...you might want to try bone walls or permafrost shield. Bone walls offer great late game protection, once you have a quinted oty on the field...or you have firestorm ready...permafrost really, really, really works great when combined with continous healing...

bone yards are also a good idea...you might want to try antimatter

a single defrag wont help that often...especially if you manage to play the pulverizer...

anyway...choose your cards wisely...
try to chosse 30 normal cards max, with about 15 pillars (rule of thumb: 1 quantum pillar for 2 cards)
for about each 10-12 cards your deck has, it needs an hourglass (speed up drawing means, you might have your combo in time)

two decks you might want to look at...you took elements from both and im afraid going with either tactic would be much more effective...

CCYB: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.0.html
The Semi-Original: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1748.0.html

have fun!

[Lionheart]

try to chosse 30 normal cards max, with about 15 pillars (rule of thumb: 1 quantum pillar for 2 cards)

I dont think, its all that easy... Its like: 2 brimstone 1 Tower= ok. 2 Fractals 1 Tower = nah.

Take a Look, helps ALOT: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5676

[funplay]

try to chosse 30 normal cards max, with about 15 pillars (rule of thumb: 1 quantum pillar for 2 cards)

I dont think, its all that easy... Its like: 2 brimstone 1 Tower= ok. 2 Fractals 1 Tower = nah.

Take a Look, helps ALOT: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5676

Your right...its not that easy. That link is great.

But as you might have noticed:  QI wont work for rainbows/quantum pillars

Further:
- this ratio worked for me when tweaking around with these basic FG-Rainbows...
- if you look at most unupped, no rush decks (without novas/immolations), you will find a card/pillar distribution that comes close to this ratio...
- therefore rule of thumb...it needs some fine tuning