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PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg161653#msg161653
« on: September 20, 2010, 09:22:44 am »
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This version is much faster and more effective than the last! The principle remains the same so for strategy, read below.

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Edit: Hmm just realised I should have posted this in the Rainbow Deck Forum as there are 6 elements used in this deck so if someone could move it, it would be appreciated!

So I figured I'd finally get around to posting the scorp deck I made based on someone elses I saw a long while back so apologies if it's been posted before; I don't remember seeing one though.

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This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result no longer works correctly.

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The ? are 4 Deathstalkers and 4 Dune Scorpions.

The pillars are there for the opening hand and help with those 3 quanta cost things such as adrenaline and dune scorps when you only have one supernova.

If you get a good starting hand and, due to the nature of the numbers of cards that happens reasonably often, it can be very fast.

Pros:
Immune to permanent control
Very cheap quanta cards
Poison builds up very fast.
50% creature control immunity: Momentum goes through shield, adrenaline shrugs off Freeze, time bubble and stone skin fast.

Cons:
Early Blackhole and Pest will shut you down.
Damage spells really slow you down.

Strategy: Wait for a supernova or two and then use momentum on the dune scorp, blessing and adrenaline on the deathstalker and watch the poison build up.

The Adrenaline+Blessing combo turns a 0/4 deathstalker into a 12+4 mashing machine outdoing even a Ruby Dragon in terms of damage.
I go with Blessing over Chaos Power simply because 3 attack works with adrenaline a lot better than other random numbers.

The Divine Shards are purely an optional preference; I found myself needing only an extra turn to win on some occasions and those helped out greatly in those situations. Getting the first turn greatly improves your chances.

You will also get bad draws every so often but then what deck doesn't suffer from that?
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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg161655#msg161655
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 09:30:05 am »
Thanks - I was actually looking for it ...

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg161666#msg161666
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 10:47:43 am »
Works quite nicely. (thank god it works without the shards ^__^)

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162360#msg162360
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 01:45:11 pm »
Yea I've found it to be very effective if you get a good draw. The shards are really just a personal preference although some healing is always useful.

Arenalined, blessed, deathstalker really is nice - the fact that adrenaline works best on 3 attack creatures is the reason i use blessing over chaos power despite adding the extra element.

The only things to watch out for are black holes, devourers and creature control; thankfully a lot of pvp decks seem to skimp on that front :P

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162377#msg162377
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 02:27:40 pm »
Have you tried Chaos Power? With your Mark and its incredibly low cost, it'd probably be better than Blessings.

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162383#msg162383
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 02:44:37 pm »
Have you tried Chaos Power? With your Mark and its incredibly low cost, it'd probably be better than Blessings.
I've tested Chaos Power. It works fine, but I personally prefer the stability of blessing. Either will work though.

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162391#msg162391
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 03:01:50 pm »
You will also get bad draws every so often but then what deck doesn't suffer from that?
I tested the deck today! It is a very enjoyable deck in PvP2 as the poisoning is very fast and suprising. Good work!

However, I won't go on with it because I think the deck suffer more than most of the decks of the bad draw. As all creatures have to be played in combination, you have a lot of possibilities for a bad start: no creature, no buff, no supernova or no tower in the 2 first turns and you can easily be out-rushed. I tried a supernova-less version with  :light :death :time towers and a :gravity mark, it seems less good.

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162794#msg162794
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2010, 05:55:21 am »
However, I won't go on with it because I think the deck suffer more than most of the decks of the bad draw. As all creatures have to be played in combination, you have a lot of possibilities for a bad start: no creature, no buff, no supernova or no tower in the 2 first turns and you can easily be out-rushed. I tried a supernova-less version with  :light :death :time towers and a :gravity mark, it seems less good.
That might be true, but that's why there are exactly 4 copies of each card as that minimises the effect. If you can't get a blessing and an adrenaline on a deathstalker, put it on a dune scorp instead. Even adrenalining momentummed scorps makes the damage build up. How many times did you play it? You might have had a run of bad draws.

If your opponenet gets a good draw, there are faster decks out there but I personally don't want to ever use one of the many generic fire spam decks.

The pillar version definitely won't work - there are too many combinations of pillars that you need for it to be effective. Also, one of the main points of the deck is that it's basically immune to permanent control!

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg162803#msg162803
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 06:16:56 am »
That might be true, but that's why there are exactly 4 copies of each card as that minimises the effect. If you can't get a blessing and an adrenaline on a deathstalker, put it on a dune scorp instead. Even adrenalining momentummed scorps makes the damage build up. How many times did you play it? You might have had a run of bad draws.
Sure. I guessed you can mix the buffs on the different scorps. I played the original deck 50 times in PvP2 approximately and almost the same amount with a modified version. I had a strong impression of bad stability. However, when it runs smoothly its a killer deck! I have seen the deck the first time in PvP2 against you and you destroyed my version of the shut-down (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.0.html).

If your opponenet gets a good draw, there are faster decks out there but I personally don't want to ever use one of the many generic fire spam decks.
I totally agree. I hate to battle series of generic speedbow or firespam. Your deck was like a breath of poisonous fresh air.

The pillar version definitely won't work - there are too many combinations of pillars that you need for it to be effective. Also, one of the main points of the deck is that it's basically immune to permanent control!
True.

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Re: PvP Practically Pillarless Poison Power. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12765.msg190244#msg190244
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 02:57:08 pm »
Updated the first post with the streamlined version I'm currently using.

It's definitely one of my favourite pvp2 decks :P

 

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