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My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg253013#msg253013
« on: January 21, 2011, 02:24:30 am »
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Bones:
3x Condor, main damage.
2x Aflatoxin, used to lock down opponent and give lots of small creatures that can be easily killed by carapace, fire storm, pandemonium
2x Thorn Carapace , used to kill some malignant cells, keeping some alive, for them to create more (unuped to make cells target it)
Quanta producer's:
10x Quantum Towers, this is a rainbow nuff said
4x Supernova, more quantum production
Other damage:
1x Steam machine, all round powerful, can be used with last quintessence
Creature helper's:
3x Quintessence, used basically to help your creatures survive
1x Fractal, used to create a field full of condor's or other thing's your FG opponent might have
Creature Control:
1x Fire storm, 3 damage to whole field making your condor's become a force to be reckoned with
3x Pandemonium, same thing as fire storm just a bit more random, and with higher average of damage
2x Thorn Carapace stated above
Healing:
6x Shard of Gratitude, heals you of damage produced by cell's and can also help with other pesky creatures that havent died too shield, or creature control yet
3x Shard of Divinity, heals for a respectable 20, can be used to get higher winning's from EM, helpful mostly at start of game
Other:
1x Protect artifact, usable to protect those highly prized Thorn Carapace, or Pillars if fighting Seism
3x Electrum Hourglass, purely speeding up deck, also target for permanent control on opponent's side

Stats to come when i find someone willing to be scapegoat hero to test deck out.
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg253034#msg253034
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 02:35:07 am »
Hm. An interesting concept, and one that could probably be molded into a really fun deck. A few things I see straight off, without testing the deck.

You use a lot of entropy, death, and time quanta. And as you only have 4 supernovas with quantum towers, I would change the mark to death since it seems to be the heart of your deck.

Then I would add a bit more stall power, but it's hard to do that without trimming down the deck. You could remove a pandemonium, a condor, an aflatoxin, a carapace, a SoD, and a quintessence. All cards you have multiple of.

Things like miracle, permafrost, and even a steal or two would be nice and would balance the quanta more and add the stalling power to get your damage out better.

I'll test the deck and see if my first impressions are right, and come back to this :)
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg253038#msg253038
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 02:37:46 am »
Hm. An interesting concept, and one that could probably be molded into a really fun deck. A few things I see straight off, without testing the deck.

You use a lot of entropy, death, and time quanta. And as you only have 4 supernovas with quantum towers, I would change the mark to death since it seems to be the heart of your deck.

Then I would add a bit more stall power, but it's hard to do that without trimming down the deck. You could remove a pandemonium, a condor, an aflatoxin, a carapace, a SoD, and a quintessence. All cards you have multiple of.

Things like miracle, permafrost, and even a steal or two would be nice and would balance the quanta more and add the stalling power to get your damage out better.

I'll test the deck and see if my first impressions are right, and come back to this :)
Yay a scapegoat hero ill check it out evans, i was using it with a death mark at start, but then i couldnt seem to get my Supernova's out

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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg268242#msg268242
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 07:04:56 pm »
carapace is amazing, fun, and sexy

sadly, relying on quantum towers will not push this amazing card fast enough.  you need carapace down BEFORE the creatures start attacking, and its not going to happen consistently

the plus side is that every FG deck uses creatures that can die to carapace, and this combos with graveyard especially well.  been trying to find a way to abuse carapace
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg268252#msg268252
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 07:37:25 pm »
Unupped Carapace doesn't work well with Alfatoxin. Also, wrong section is wrong.
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg269001#msg269001
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 11:08:42 pm »
Unupped Carapace doesn't work well with Alfatoxin. Also, wrong section is wrong.
Yes it does, Its unuped for a reason...
I want to keep some Malignant cell alive,for them to create more and power the vulture even more, Yes you take damage but not enough to make it hard on you as long as you have even some SoG, and or have used some SoD.
Also Unuped one, kills off very annoying 1 health creatures, that are main in many decks, RoL in Paradox and Morte.

Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg271878#msg271878
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 03:06:08 pm »
upped carapace is probably better imo
u have firestorm and pandas for those 1-attack creatures

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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg271954#msg271954
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 06:06:06 pm »
You use a lot of entropy, death, and time quanta. And as you only have 4 supernovas with quantum towers, I would change the mark to death since it seems to be the heart of your deck.
Another possibility might be life mark to get the carapaces out faster and then use soul catchers to help with the extra death quanta.  A momentum might also be good to handle gods using gravity or phase shields.  Overall though, I have a feeling this deck might need too many combos to really be effective.  The basic concept for it might be more effective in a life/death duo though or even a trio with aether so you still have quints and fractal available.

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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg275685#msg275685
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 08:41:54 pm »
I like it, never thought of Thorn Carapace + Aflatoxin in such a way that they cause a massive death loop, feeding the vultures like crazy.  Thoughts on that combo were always with Spine Carapace killing everything but the cella so that it clogged the field.  Interesting, so I think I might try it in Trainer and tweak it to my liking.
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg275805#msg275805
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 10:37:42 pm »
I like it, never thought of Thorn Carapace + Aflatoxin in such a way that they cause a massive death loop, feeding the vultures like crazy.  Thoughts on that combo were always with Spine Carapace killing everything but the cella so that it clogged the field.  Interesting, so I think I might try it in Trainer and tweak it to my liking.
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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg276152#msg276152
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 06:40:41 am »
I tried 2 or 3 games - the problem of the deck is that the cells cause too much damage for the healing you have. And with some "normal" creatures you don't stand a chance.

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Re: My first attempt at a FG killer "The Carapace Creator" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19960.msg307808#msg307808
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 10:12:28 pm »
That was always my problem with this deck—filling the field with Malignent cells overpowers the amount of healing I can generate.

Incidentally, why not use a Flood card to kill even more?

 

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