My classic old speedbow

[Ilias22]

Here is a deck I have used a lot of times in pvp2 . I would like to tell me your opinion about this and give me ideas to improve it 

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[fiery]

not bad, needs more PC like shard of focus, pulvy. if you dont have PC, you are dead in arena. and the defense, i really like the wings-spiders combo, try it

[iancudorinmarian]

not bad, needs more PC like shard of focus, pulvy. if you dont have PC, you are dead in arena. and the defense, i really like the wings-spiders combo, try it

Not really, he already has a steal and a deflag. I agree about the wings though, fog shield and unstable gas simply don't fit here. Also, I would change a heal for another QT, I never use more than 2 heals.

[fiery]

not bad, needs more PC like shard of focus, pulvy. if you dont have PC, you are dead in arena. and the defense, i really like the wings-spiders combo, try it

Not really, he already has a steal and a deflag. I agree about the wings though, fog shield and unstable gas simply don't fit here. Also, I would change a heal for another QT, I never use more than 2 heals.

but is it enough? i think its not. yeah, you can steal a sofr, you can deflag a dimensional shield, but is it enough? nooo its not.
there is no good platinum farmer decks (platinum farmer = highest tier in my op.) with 2 CC. the otyugh-sopa stall ha 15 or more cc, the pharao/sofo/sore stall also ha 6 or more.
all it want to say: with two CC you will suck againts mono airs and mono aethers. and for PvP2... its just for fun. you can use any deck you like, it doesn't rly matter

[CuCN]

with two CC you will suck againts mono airs and mono aethers

And more CC is supposed to be good against mono aether how?

[rob77dp]

not bad, needs more PC like shard of focus, pulvy. if you dont have PC, you are dead in arena. and the defense, i really like the wings-spiders combo, try it

Not really, he already has a steal and a deflag. I agree about the wings though, fog shield and unstable gas simply don't fit here. Also, I would change a heal for another QT, I never use more than 2 heals.

but is it enough? i think its not. yeah, you can steal a sofr You have to know your deck.  If you have x2 PC cards then don't use one on a SoFr., you can deflag a dimensional shield You have to know your deck.  If you have x2 PC cards then don't use one on a Dim Shield until eliminating that one dim is a win-condition (or at least avoid-losing-right-now condition)., but is it enough? nooo its not. It could be - this deck looks to have the intent of overwhelming in a quick-paced game hence you want to have the x2 PC in the deck to likely have one on-hand to eliminate the one opposing Permanent preventing a rush-y win.
there is no good platinum farmer decks (platinum farmer = highest tier in my op.) with 2 CC PDials SoSa says "Hi" and has zero PC and zero CC.. the otyugh-sopa stall ha 15 or more cc, the pharao/sofo/sore stall also ha 6 or more.
all it want to say: with two CC you will suck againts mono airs If you know you have only x2 CC then use it only for important creature controlling.and mono aethers Immaterial-creature based MA laughs at almost any level of CC.  Non-immaterial MA uses Fractal which laughs at most any level of CC.. and for PvP2... its just for fun. you can use any deck you like, it doesn't rly matter For the purpose of discussion only, it can be considered to "matter" what deck you use. 

Without actually play-testing this deck, I cannot really comment any further.  I do offer that the above responses to you, fiery, should serve to give hints that x2 PC and/or x2 CC are not automatically poor deck builds.  It is all relative - as I think we all understand here already.

[fiery]

with two CC you will suck againts mono airs and mono aethers

And more CC is supposed to be good against mono aether how?

ah, sorry, i meant PC. CC is almost useless againts mono aether ( psions )

[fiery]

not bad, needs more PC like shard of focus, pulvy. if you dont have PC, you are dead in arena. and the defense, i really like the wings-spiders combo, try it

Not really, he already has a steal and a deflag. I agree about the wings though, fog shield and unstable gas simply don't fit here. Also, I would change a heal for another QT, I never use more than 2 heals.

but is it enough? i think its not. yeah, you can steal a sofr You have to know your deck.  If you have x2 PC cards then don't use one on a SoFr., you can deflag a dimensional shield You have to know your deck.  If you have x2 PC cards then don't use one on a Dim Shield until eliminating that one dim is a win-condition (or at least avoid-losing-right-now condition)., but is it enough? nooo its not. It could be - this deck looks to have the intent of overwhelming in a quick-paced game hence you want to have the x2 PC in the deck to likely have one on-hand to eliminate the one opposing Permanent preventing a rush-y win.
there is no good platinum farmer decks (platinum farmer = highest tier in my op.) with 2 CC PDials SoSa says "Hi" and has zero PC and zero CC.. the otyugh-sopa stall ha 15 or more cc, the pharao/sofo/sore stall also ha 6 or more.
all it want to say: with two CC you will suck againts mono airs If you know you have only x2 CC then use it only for important creature controlling.and mono aethers Immaterial-creature based MA laughs at almost any level of CC.  Non-immaterial MA uses Fractal which laughs at most any level of CC.. and for PvP2... its just for fun. you can use any deck you like, it doesn't rly matter For the purpose of discussion only, it can be considered to "matter" what deck you use. 

Without actually play-testing this deck, I cannot really comment any further.  I do offer that the above responses to you, fiery, should serve to give hints that x2 PC and/or x2 CC are not automatically poor deck builds.  It is all relative - as I think we all understand here already.

sorry about that, i meant PC againts mono aether, not CC, i automatically write CC for some reason, sorry about that...  also, i know PDials doesn't need PC because... cmon its logical. i was talkin' about speedbows. I'm trying to say, that with 2 PC's you WILL have problems againts mono aethers, and other strong stalls in arena. In my opinion: speedbows = rush + stall breaking. if you cant break a stall, you cant rush, thats it. btw thanks for your opinion, i aggree

[dawn to dusk]

neither swallow, nor pharaoh decks are rainbows (?)

[iancudorinmarian]

@fiery, you're making a big mistake: thinking all speedbows are the same. That's very wrong. Each speedbow has it's own strategy, for example, this one has rush possibilities (cheap high atk creatures) and stall possibilities (heals, fog shield, vampire dagger, CC).

You don't need to pack SoFo in every deck just because you fear mono aether, or you will lose against the other decks.

[fiery]

@fiery, you're making a big mistake: thinking all speedbows are the same. That's very wrong. Each speedbow has it's own strategy, for example, this one has rush possibilities (cheap high atk creatures) and stall possibilities (heals, fog shield, vampire dagger, CC).

You don't need to pack SoFo in every deck just because you fear mono aether, or you will lose against the other decks.

speedbows are mostly the same: high attack quanta worthy creatures. I'm just saying that they REALLY need PC. thats why you dont play full-upped mono life. it doesn't fit the meta. the mindless speedbows with only creatures are outdated, you must think about the meta. i mean... 24 upped card?! (supernova is "must have" and used in a lot of decks) thats a lot!! and what if that 24 upped card were wasted? just do your best with that full upped deck. you will be sad if its useless, trust me. btw, the deck is almost perfect, but i prefer heavy PC with that 2 cards. that deck can do better

[omegareaper7]

@fiery, you're making a big mistake: thinking all speedbows are the same. That's very wrong. Each speedbow has it's own strategy, for example, this one has rush possibilities (cheap high atk creatures) and stall possibilities (heals, fog shield, vampire dagger, CC).

You don't need to pack SoFo in every deck just because you fear mono aether, or you will lose against the other decks.

speedbows are mostly the same: high attack quanta worthy creatures. I'm just saying that they REALLY need PC. thats why you dont play full-upped mono life. it doesn't fit the meta. the mindless speedbows with only creatures are outdated, you must think about the meta. i mean... 24 upped card?! (supernova is "must have" and used in a lot of decks) thats a lot!! and what if that 24 upped card were wasted? just do your best with that full upped deck. you will be sad if its useless, trust me. btw, the deck is almost perfect, but i prefer heavy PC with that 2 cards. that deck can do better

You can easily get by without pc. Speedbows don't need to run pc to be good, even in the current meta. Momentum, poison and spells are a thing. And honestly, only one shield really hurts speedbows.