Ultimate FG Stall by TheOwner

[dzanis]

Maybe you need a bit change in strategy against Ferox: don't use aflatoxin, but remove 3 his creatures per turn from field (eat two with Devour, and rewind another one). No healing.

[thekillergame]

most of the time i'm dead before i get an oty on the field

[MrBlonde]

I honestly looked at this deck and went meh... But after trying it out with a few alterations i quite like it. I personally think that adding a bonewall and boneyard adds great synergy to this deck with flooding and oty's. You don't really need all those PA's (i took out one) and i took out the ball lightnings because they aren't needed really if you make skeletons. The 1 extra turn to get a malignant on your field doesn't hurt at and to be honest i've yet to use it on my side to have it matter. I also added a Lava Destroyer just to add extra damage and swapped a Pulvy for an Eternity.

Anyhow nice deck and concept and i'll fiddle with this deck for a bit.

ETA - And how you went 20-0 and are 39-5 i have no idea. You either are the luckiest person ever or you are playing in the trainer. I have 15 games under my belt and i have had DG 3 times, DM 2 times, and rainbow 2 times. I don't see you being able to beat any of those FG's very often.

[TheOwner]

I honestly looked at this deck and went meh... But after trying it out with a few alterations i quite like it. I personally think that adding a bonewall and boneyard adds great synergy to this deck with flooding and oty's. You don't really need all those PA's (i took out one) and i took out the ball lightnings because they aren't needed really if you make skeletons. The 1 extra turn to get a malignant on your field doesn't hurt at and to be honest i've yet to use it on my side to have it matter. I also added a Lava Destroyer just to add extra damage and swapped a Pulvy for an Eternity.

Anyhow nice deck and concept and i'll fiddle with this deck for a bit.

ETA - And how you went 20-0 and are 39-5 i have no idea. You either are the luckiest person ever or you are playing in the trainer. I have 15 games under my belt and i have had DG 3 times, DM 2 times, and rainbow 2 times. I don't see you being able to beat any of those FG's very often.

I beat Dark Matter once.  Lost two other times.  I haven't played rainbow yet. Divine Glory wooped my ass both times.

So far changes that have helped in the tweaks I'm playing with...

-1 Protect Artifact
+1 Lava Golem
-1 Ball of Lightning
+1 Butterfly Effect

This alterations I'm not sure about yet.  Butterfly Effect definitely helped and Lava Golem made it go faster.  As for Bonewall and Boneyard I wanted spell protection.  Boneyard is nice but it can be stolen / destroyed easily.  Aflatoxin can be a bit harder.  Even if the cells are killed I usually have two or three cells from Reverse Timing.
I really must be the luckiest person in the world. 

[MrBlonde]

I beat Dark Matter once.  Lost two other times.  I haven't played rainbow yet. Divine Glory wooped my ass both times.

So far changes that have helped in the tweaks I'm playing with...

-1 Protect Artifact
+1 Lava Golem
-1 Ball of Lightning
+1 Butterfly Effect

This alterations I'm not sure about yet.  Butterfly Effect definitely helped and Lava Golem made it go faster.  As for Bonewall and Boneyard I wanted spell protection.  Boneyard is nice but it can be stolen / destroyed easily.  Aflatoxin can be a bit harder.  Even if the cells are killed I usually have two or three cells from Reverse Timing.
I really must be the luckiest person in the world. 

Actually now that i think about it i could scratch the pulvy add a butterfly effect and perhaps swap a jade shield for a diamond since quanta won't be used much and that would help out more vs scorpio/osiris.

Also very few FG's have steals, Dreamcatcher, Chaos Lord, Rainbow, and Decay. Since DC and Rainbow are pretty difficult to beat anyhow only Chaos Lord and Decay will give you a few problems with steal but they really don't have that many and them stealing it isn't really a big deal IMO.

[TheOwner]

The reason I like using Jade Shield is for reflecting spells and the AI won't use Black Hole or Antimatter when a Jade Shield is in play.  I have no idea why but it doesn't work.  Your idea works well but you really did forget about spells didn't you?

Is it just me or is Antimatter not fitting in this deck?

[Essence]

Actually, I like Antimatter.  What's not fitting into this deck from my perspective is the Supernovas.  Supernovas work well in decks like the Semi-Original FBBow because the decks are compact enough that you can draw one regularly.

This deck started working better -- much better -- for me when I swapped out Supernovas for more Quantum Towers and used :timemark .

The only god with which healing is a problem is Elidnis, who Quints stuff so you can't eat it (and thus negate the Feral Bonds), but you can just about always deck him out anyway.  This deck might not be quick, but it's consistent, and I like that.

[kev]

I tried this in trainer and went 4-6 (Won against Neptune, Osiris, Miracle, and Destiny.  Lost against Chaos Lord, Seism, Gemini, DG, Incarnate and Morte).  In two of the losses I couldn't find my shield and in one I had two shields in hand but couldn't get 7 .  Even with three hourglasses, it's just hard to get the shield up in time, but that's how it is in every FG deck I've played.  My thoughts:

Why aflatoxin your own field?

It's a nice option to have against bone walls because you don't have a FFQ, graveyard, or momentum.

Replacing a ball w/a golem is a must.  If you really need to afla your own field for whatever reason, it's probably mid game because you already afla'd opponent.  By then you have 5 quanta anyway so you could just afla the golem if necessary.  In general though if you're counting on a big oty, a field of cells, and an eternity for damage you're just trying to deck out the FG.

And if you don't deck him out you're unlikely to get an EM.  You have no PC to take out opponent's weapon, and you have no growth creatures or fractal to try for a weapon kill.  It might be worth adding a pulvy (though is a problem) or replacing an AM with a butterfly just to shoot for EMs.

And yeah, 3 PAs is too many when you're using Jade Shield.

20-0 is an aberration.  So is the 47-12 since then.  If you continue to get those kind of results you're going to have to post a tutorial video for me.  Overall I liked the deck and it's given me some things to think about but due to the slower games and infrequent EMs, I'm not gonna rush to adopt it.

[TheOwner]

Really?  Supernovas have saved me multiple times.  I'll need to test it out though.  So you had 18 Pillars?  Or did you put in some other cards too?

I tried trading some cards around for Lava Golems and it speeded up the decks, but wins were inconsistent.

Sadly my winning percentage is getting lower.... its around 70-25 right now.

[MrJ0shua]

Looks like a nice deck. Can't wait to give it a try.

[TheOwner]

Updated the decks