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MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg96826#msg96826
« on: June 20, 2010, 01:02:47 pm »
**EDIT: -1 Feral Bond, -1 Fire Shield, +1 Shard of Gratitude, +1 Permafrost Shield.  Updated Pic.  Old Notes.

MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow"
(a.k.a. MrSexington's "I Just Creamed My Pants" Deck)

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Deck Notes:

There's a lot of synergy between all the cards in the deck and one card kind of leads into the other.

  • Time Mark - Even though there are only 2 Time cards in the deck, the Time Mark is essential since I'm running 4 Cremation & 2 Supernova vs. 6 Supernova.
  • Cremation - This is the central change of the deck (vs. Normal Rainbow).
  • Minor Phoenixes & Photons - The Cremation needs targets and these 2 creatures are excellent targets.
  • Graveyards - Instead of running of single Boneyard, I'm running double Graveyards.  The Elite Skeletons aren't just fodder for the Fallen Druid, in this deck they become a win condition.  Between the Cremated Phoenixes and Fire Shields, you get a lot of mileage out of them.
  • Fire Shields - Because you have so much extra Fire Quanta and because Death Quanta is dedicated to the Graveyards, I chose to include Fire Shields over Bone Walls.
  • Improved Miracle - The Fire Shields are nice, but that means you're going to be taking a lot of damage.  I found that the Miracle is essential for the deck.  It requires a lot of Light Quanta so it's a good thing the Photons are in the deck.
  • Feral Bonds - I figured that if I'm going for the creature theme for the deck, might as well do it right.  I chose to put in double Bonds and zero Shards of Gratitude.  If all goes well, with double Graveyards and nearly unkillable Phoenixes, your side of the board will fill up quickly.
  • Fractal - Fractal Phoenixes.  Photons if necessary.  (It only takes 2 Cremations to be able to cast an entire hand full of Phoenixes.)
  • Quintessence - Because the Fallen Druid, OTY, and/or Elite Queen aren't necessary to win, there is no need for Quintessence.  All Aether Quanta is dedicated towards a big Fractal.  Also, an early Minor Phoenix will empty a lot of initial creature hate.
  • Elite Queen - This is a minor point, but the Elite Firefly Quanta is actually being put to good use in this deck.


  • I don't have any stats for the deck yet.  I've beaten some False Gods, but I don't know if I got over 50%.
  • I'm also not sure if I'm happy with the permanent control.  1 Pulveriser and 1 Steal feels a little light.
  • I also use this as my Top 50 deck.  It probably takes longer to win than a normal rush, but it matches up well against all of the normal rainbows in there.
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« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 09:08:17 am by willng3 »

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg96831#msg96831
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 01:10:48 pm »
It looks awesome :D maybe -1 Fire buckler+1 permafrost sheld?

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg96841#msg96841
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 01:39:12 pm »
A little more testing and without Bonewalls & Shards of Gratitude it takes too much early damage.

Hm...

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg96847#msg96847
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 01:45:38 pm »
you can add in 3  sundials and 3 SoGs to fix that

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg96850#msg96850
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 01:51:08 pm »
you can add in 3  sundials and 3 SoGs to fix that
That might work. 

I was stuck on 40 cards but...

...For the greater good!

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97062#msg97062
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 06:47:56 pm »
(long time player first time poster :) )

I have been working on a VERY similar deck because 1. I love the Phoenix 2. Just...more fun and 3. Other decks get boring.

Mine was simply a collection of cards like I like the most from all the colors with some defense.

However, I am without a Miracle (go figure I have a crap ton of others, no Miracle).

I want to steal some of your make up, but didnt know how crucial the Miracle was.

If I substituted the Rays for SoGs and an extra Dial, or used an Animate Weapon or Sparks for Cremation? Or maybe the Spine Carapace with the extra 1 dmg reduction? I can almost build this deck but was upgrading some rares and didnt want to spend the extra cash if it was futile.

Thanks in advance!

Count Dante

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97082#msg97082
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 07:14:25 pm »
For the record, a version I was playing with/thinkin about was with Eaters, Fahrenheits, Animate Weapon, elite queen, etc. I was using Otough and a Quint, but it wasnt working right with only one of each.

But screw it, I will buy and upgrade some of these and work on it too. It is fun as hell and deviates from the standard-ish rainbow, making it a bit more fun.

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97097#msg97097
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 07:29:14 pm »
first of all, nice deck, ive used it in like 10 games and i enojoyed its twist in what is a solid deck (SG's rainbow).

i am here to make some criticism tho:

you put in there CREMATION, MINOR PHOENIX and RAY OF LIGHT (who works in synergy) for a total of 9 cards for what purpose?
i should say to generate RED QUANTA (that's what cremation is for) but you almost have no use for that red quanta!
you could build an amount of 36 red quantas but you have only 2 creatures (cost 2), one shield (cost 4) and two firestorm ( cost 5) that require red quanta!
if you add 9 quantum towers and 2 supernovas (that produce red quanta too) you clearly see that's a bit overkill and the deck is not so efficient as you think!

you put in there a lot of powerful cards (fractal,miracle,oty,fallen elf,pulverizer,fire buckler,permafrost shield) that are soo good that make you deck works anyway,
but if i were you i'd think more deeply about the excessive quanta you produce that has no use...

keep up the good work!!

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97100#msg97100
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2010, 07:33:13 pm »
guy, you need 2 FIRE quanta per phoenix, that's what the fractal is for. He was trying to get away from a standard build.

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97103#msg97103
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2010, 07:37:34 pm »
Yeah, I usually end up with a lot of Fire Quanta, but it's mostly there to spam 8 Phoenixes (ideally).

The current version still isn't working as well as I wish it did.  It's the Quanta required to get going.  Cremations are just inferior to Supernovas for all non-fire cards if there aren't any Graveyards in play.  The deck gets a lot of bad draws because of this.

Maybe switch mark back to Entropy and -Towers & + Novas...?

You could always add a normal Pheonix for more punch or maybe a 2nd Fractal to soak up some quanta.  But I don't know about that.

 :-X


EDIT: Since the Druid & Queen aren't necessary to win, I'm currently looking to drop the Fallen Druid in favor an Antimatter and possibly drop the Queen for an Eagle's Eye to help out with the control and life gain problems.  Then again... they might be too good to leave out.

guy_fawkes

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97109#msg97109
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2010, 07:41:04 pm »
guy, you need 2 FIRE quanta per phoenix, that's what the fractal is for. He was trying to get away from a standard build.
it's still too much red unused quanta,
and use 9 cards in a deck hoping to draw the fractal (1/40 chance) it's still not efficient...

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Re: MrSexington's "Cremation Rainbow" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8421.msg97120#msg97120
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2010, 07:48:49 pm »
Yeah, I usually end up with a lot of Fire Quanta, but it's mostly there to spam 8 Phoenixes (ideally).

The current version still isn't working as well as I wish it did.  It's the Quanta required to get going.  Cremations are just inferior to Supernovas for all non-fire cards if there aren't any Graveyards in play.  The deck gets a lot of bad draws because of this.

Maybe switch mark back to Entropy and -Towers & + Novas...?

You could always add a normal Pheonix for more punch or maybe a 2nd Fractal to soak up some quanta.  But I don't know about that.

 :-X
I am still using the Entrophy mark and Super novas.

But I am only still playing with the Level 5 to get a better feel, combining some of your ideass with crap I havent made work yet.  I am not having an issue with too much of any quanta (but white) but also running too many cards (at 50) at the moment.

 

anything
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