malignant mutants

[elder elemental]

Deck Helper comment: 
This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now.  Use at your own risk.
I'm not sure no one posted smt like this before, but it sure isnt in the most popular ones, so I felt it deserved another post.

This deck is pretty much based on the aflatoxin card, although I only raised my win rates against FG after trying CC? Why bother? ideas, so tnx a lot for that post =}

I dont have numbers to give, sorry. But Im sure in my hands I had a bigger win rate than when I was with CC? Why bother?. My win rate was above 50%, while CC gave me an slighly below 50% rate.

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the idea is that u use aflatoxin in your own Fallen Elf to get creatures full in a few turns and then improve them with fallen druid. Usually FGs dont bother to kill the malignant cells, so just place fallen elf and aflatoxin at the same time and you are done.

this deck also gives a great creature control, since you can:
-eat them with otty
-kill them with eagle's eye+rain of fire
-mutate them and then eat with otty or, if the deck is not rainbow, rewind them with eternity
-delay or freeze them
-get a lucky improved creature that saves the day
-use your second aflatoxin in a FG's creature to make him get filled up with malignant cells, then use your permafrost shield

eternity is also very important, since many games I got everything but my malignant cells killed and was forced to use rewind to avoyd running out of cards before winning, or used it to save a creature from dieing, specially a malignant cell, to easily replace all of them in case I get them all killed, so dont let eternity get destroyed or stolen.

Another good thing is that almost every win is with full health.
thats about it, this deck takes some practice to get the best profit out of it.

I'll also post my older versions, since they are more useful in PvP and can be used to farm top 50/lvl 5 without having all cards upgraded, specially the version without electrum hourglass.

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Im looking forward for tips and comments! please test my deck =p
also, sorry for my english. Im from Brazil  8) so fluency is something I wont ever have. (yes you can post grammar corrections too)

enjoy!

[killsdazombies]

whats the reasoning behind turtleshield, im sure you could replace it with say, a phase shield, a quint, a lava destroy, something like that.

[icecoldbro]

id say it needs a quint(to keep your druid intact) and it will fail bad vs octane

[elder elemental]

whats the reasoning behind turtleshield, im sure you could replace it with say, a phase shield, a quint, a lava destroy, something like that.

yes, I also think turtle shield is out of place, but it has given me the time I needed to flip the table many times, so I decided to keep it. Permafrost is obviusly more effective, but sometimes by the time I can place it the game is lost.

I didnt try phase. Might do the job.

[elder elemental]

id say it needs a quint(to keep your druid intact) and it will fail bad vs octane

my original deck was with anubis, to keep even the mutated creatures intact, but I found out keeping the cells alive is the most important thing and this way I got the game going faster. I did try quint instead of anubis but I still found more worthy to get them out.

Still, I agree it can make you invincible if u get a cell and the druid quinted.
May be theres a way quint can be fit in there, but I couldt make it work.

yes, seism and black hole are the nightmare cards for this deck. Thorn carapace and fire shield are a serious problem too, if pulvy takes too long to show up or they get enchanted. Steal used to give a hand here, but I took them out for the same reason I took quint out

[kobisjeruk]

I dont have numbers to give, sorry. But Im sure in my hands I had a bigger win rate than when I was with CC? Why bother?. My win rate was above 50%, while CC gave me an slighly below 50% rate.

i'm very skeptical about your claim that this is better than ccyb. how many games did you test with it?
you know, numbers/statistic are important so that it doesn look like you're talking out of your ass (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=talking%20out%20of%20your%20ass)

also, the deck could use a better, memorable name

[Fallower]

Doesn't this deck lose to pretty much any kind of cc? o.o
I like how each of the three weapons have a time when they are needed(Like eagle eye to kill off creatures, then pulvy to destroy permanent, eventually eternity to keep yourself from decking out).

But I still seriously doubt that this could be better than CCYB.

[YawnChainHow]

The thing with CCYB is that it takes some experience to use it properly. There's a good deal of timing involved with many of the cards: Hourglass, Fractal, FFQ, Antimatter, etc. Messing up with the timing can, more often than not, turn a would-be win into a loss. Mutationbows are not as hard to use, which is why some people probably have a better win percentage with them. Each to his own, I guess.

[Higurashi]

I don't doubt at all he has a better win ratio with his own deck that something someone else made. Obviously it's going to fit his playstyle better.
As it is, this deck is adequately focused on its strategy. Any changes beyond this are solely up to flavour. I bet the FG has in most cases almost run out of CC by the time the Druid comes into play, so while a Quint would be useful, it's not a must-have.
However, I can see this having Time Quanta issues now and then. Getting a different shield would help with this, but Turtle Shield is the most reliable of them all. Up to you.

[kobisjeruk]

I bet the FG has in most cases almost run out of CC by the time the Druid comes into play

that maybe the case if you have other creature generator e.g. FFQ or pharaoh but he doesnt and even he said himself

Usually FGs dont bother to kill the malignant cells

so practically both druid and oty will be the target of all kinds of CCs

and i dont even get why you're defending his deck for him because clearly you yourself have no experience with it
i'm asking the owner how did he manage to win...with claims that he has a better win rate than another, more proven deck eventhough looking at his decklist, all looking shaddy as hell
maybe he can tell us how he did it, maybe he face ferox and paradox all day long, who knows
but some kind of stats would be nice

edit: you know what, i'll test the deck myself using the exact configuration and see how well this unquinted control entbow really is

1st game: Obliterator
no elf, had to afla oty, died to momentumed dragons and burrowed shriekers
result: lost 0-1

2nd game: Osiris
had to switch pulvy for EE due to his twin momentumed scarabs (that were eating other scarabs)
first afla went to a pharaoh in an attempt to reduce his scarab production
second afla went to elf, cells on both side are left alone
oty and druid came down, and got rewinded immediately (only 2 scarabs left on his side before i had to switch to eternity)
result: won 1-1

3rd game: to be continued...

edit2: i tried the deck vs HBs first to get a grip on how to play it properly
seems like you really need to get elf+afla going asap or face major rush problem with little recovery (octane seems like autoquit)
BUT, the major problem which the main point that made me a skeptic still remains....how on earth would you be able to keep both key creatures (druid+oty) stay onboard with no quints at all is beyond me
need further testing...especially vsing FGs with CCs

[Higurashi]

Nah, they do kill malignant cells for me, which results in a lot of wasted CC. I'm not sure why you're going hostile on me, but I have tried it, and I plenty of experience with rainbows. Not sure why you would assume otherwise, but you seem frustrated over something. I'm not actually defending the deck; I'm explaining why it might work for him. It's clearly not your cuppa, but that doesn't affect mine or his preferences or experiences. Do try to avoid the personal attacks; you have no basis for them and it's only rude and immature.

[kobisjeruk]

basis for what now? this has nothing to do with personal attack
you tried explaining the deck but clearly you dont have full grasp of how its working
because hmm..let me see

if FGs target the cells....cells wont split and you got no fodder for druid, ergo failed deck

if FGs DONT target the cells....oty+druid will be the target of all CCs instead, ergo failed deck

i DO have experience playing with aflatoxin myself (not the deck) and from my experience, FG doesnt touch the malignant cells at all (as seen from my first two games with the deck)
if it does, you wont have any mutant cell because they wont be any cells left to mutate
do you see where i'm going with this?


anyhoo...

3rd game: Morte
morte got arsenic first turn, pulvy the second last card, elf the last card
had to switch to eternity or facing decking out...doesnt matter because poison will kill next turn anyway
result: lost 1-2

4th game: Paradox
EE + oty + early afla seal the deal
result: won 2-2