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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg266136#msg266136
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2011, 02:47:46 am »
My personal opinion is that this is pretty close for optimal build, at least for me. I'm only thinking of adding 1 Antimatter (or 2) and going up to 31-32 cards while doing so. But like I said, that's just my opinion and since everyone has their own styles for playing, having those added cards may fit your style better. Please post here later how your changes have affected to results.
Here is my version:
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Some word for extension:

it was big dilema about purify and second "STALKER". I konw it is not really loner more, but with this creature I can give a close lock on the opponents. Probably - 1 Crusader, -1 quintessence, +1 purify, +1 aflatoxin or momentum. (Some times it was hard to pass the walls if pulverizer was my last card)

towers: because of 2 Hourglasses it's need more time quantas. But fully quantum towers could be perfect.
pandemonium: creature controll if aflatoxin is not enough. It is fun!
Electrum Hourglass: for 40 card It' need to speed up.
Steal: To steal is much better than destroy. I love it.
quintessence: one more for second crusader.
Protect artifact: agains quanta destroyere or stealing. DON'T PUT ON YOUR WEAPON :D I did sometimes. But If you have two ethernitized crusader you can put pulverizer into slot and you can prtect it. I used to put on mindgate or quantum towers.

I cannot count exactly my results. Enough high and EM rate is enough.
no mirror shield? decay and octane will give you quite the trouble...

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg266333#msg266333
« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2011, 01:55:11 pm »
no mirror shield? decay and octane will give you quite the trouble...
Oupps. You are right. I put wrong shield when I make list. There is mirror shield.


And I give a new name to my version: CASTOR and POLLUX

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg266974#msg266974
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2011, 11:46:34 am »
played around 200 games against FG, win rate around 50%, or around 70% if you skip divine glory, hermes, dark matter, eternal phoenix and rainbow.

EM almost garanteed, too, with this version:

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg266976#msg266976
« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2011, 12:01:58 pm »
played around 200 games against FG, win rate around 50%, or around 70% if you skip divine glory, hermes, dark matter, eternal phoenix and rainbow.

EM almost garanteed, too, with this version:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 71c 77f 77i 77i 7ai 7aj 7gp 7gq 7k0 7k5 7q8 7q8 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 80h 80j
skip = losing ^^
so technically your still on 50 % ... but i know what you mean, i skip them aswell with this kind of deck.

your sundials are interesting, i think i will try your version.

actually im using this variation and im quite pleased:
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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg266980#msg266980
« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2011, 12:30:13 pm »
and still no PA ? it alone makes 2 (out of 7) impossible FGs beatable, seism and obliterator  :)

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267009#msg267009
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2011, 02:40:15 pm »
I like the addition of Sundials, might put more pressure on Light generation, though.

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267086#msg267086
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2011, 05:12:21 pm »
played around 200 games against FG, win rate around 50%, or around 70% if you skip divine glory, hermes, dark matter, eternal phoenix and rainbow.

EM almost garanteed, too, with this version:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 71c 77f 77i 77i 7ai 7aj 7gp 7gq 7k0 7k5 7q8 7q8 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 80h 80j
skip = losing ^^
so technically your still on 50 % ... but i know what you mean, i skip them aswell with this kind of deck.

your sundials are interesting, i think i will try your version.

actually im using this variation and im quite pleased:
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 71c 77f 7aj 7gp 7gq 7k0 7k5 7q8 7q8 80h 80j 80j 81q 81q
Second mindgate is great idea. Most of my losing was because I deck out. Althrough I used twins but it is not enough.

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267118#msg267118
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2011, 06:34:06 pm »
Second mindgate is great idea. Most of my losing was because I deck out. Althrough I used twins but it is not enough.
Deck out? That should be virtually impossible unless you're playing against Divine Glory. It can sometimes happen against Decay or Dark Matter too, but then decking out is actually due to not having enough quanta.

Are you using Mindgate to to get more creatures (Malignant Cell etc.)? Trick is to use Eternity first, and then Mindgate the rewinded creature, that is then the first card on opponent’s deck.

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267127#msg267127
« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2011, 07:03:17 pm »
Second mindgate is great idea. Most of my losing was because I deck out. Althrough I used twins but it is not enough.
Deck out? That should be virtually impossible unless you're playing against Divine Glory. It can sometimes happen against Decay or Dark Matter too, but then decking out is actually due to not having enough quanta.

Are you using Mindgate to to get more creatures (Malignant Cell etc.)? Trick is to use Eternity first, and then Mindgate the rewinded creature, that is then the first card on opponent’s deck.
In my 40 card version I use HG to speed up my deck. I draw more card in first period of the game. But 1:10 Mindgate is the last card, I cannot recycle creatures if my Crusaders are invulnerabilited.

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267159#msg267159
« Reply #81 on: February 08, 2011, 07:58:37 pm »
Second mindgate is great idea. Most of my losing was because I deck out. Althrough I used twins but it is not enough.
Deck out? That should be virtually impossible unless you're playing against Divine Glory. It can sometimes happen against Decay or Dark Matter too, but then decking out is actually due to not having enough quanta.

Are you using Mindgate to to get more creatures (Malignant Cell etc.)? Trick is to use Eternity first, and then Mindgate the rewinded creature, that is then the first card on opponent’s deck.
In my 40 card version I use HG to speed up my deck. I draw more card in first period of the game. But 1:10 Mindgate is the last card, I cannot recycle creatures if my Crusaders are invulnerabilited.
I have experienced this, and this is not true. First of all, in a 30 cards deck the chances of Mindgate to be on the dead bottom are 1/30. Secondly, since defense isn't based on the Crusader, you shouldn't quint it before the Mindgate shows up.

If the Mindgate is on the second-to-last card there is a trick you need to pull off to use it properly: that is, play it, then be sure to have a Crusader with Eternity + an Eternity. Next (last) turn, you use Eternity to rewind opponent's cell, then Mindgate it, play it, and rewind it with Crusader.

The actual chances of deckout, if you play correctly, are at about 1.5% tops (excluding aforementioned gods).
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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg267211#msg267211
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2011, 09:31:43 pm »
and still no PA ? it alone makes 2 (out of 7) impossible FGs beatable, seism and obliterator  :)
i beat obliterator without PA :D - of corse i was pretty lucky^^

there are lots of pros and contras for PA's... and finally a question about your playstile.
pros:
more fg's beatable (if you draw a PA in time)
some fg's less hard ( ^ )

contras
dead card vs. all gods who dont have any pc (13/24 fg's, if i remember correct)
-> some fg's get a little bit harder harder through less deck consistents (dead card)

there is nothing wrong with a PA here, but...
if you take a look at the effectiv use for PA (you need a early draw vs. seism e.g. , its almost usless in the bottom half of your deck), it wont boost your win% that much overall.

in short: its cool to have one if you need one, but if not ... meh


about decking out:
i decked out once vs. octane... i had not enough  :light for replay my crusader (could not get me a cell over my side - no mindgate in time and dont get some gas over^^).
a really unlucky situation^^

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Re: Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19395.msg268832#msg268832
« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2011, 05:29:57 pm »
testing the best of two worlds atm (6 sundials, 2 mindgates). will post results next week  :)

 

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