Lone Stalker [1.26 FG grinder]

[Higurashi]

67%, eh? Quite impressive. I'm fairly certain you'll have to provide a guide for anyone else but a few seasoned vets to get that high. Of course, you did have good matchups in the testing, but it's still impressive.

[wavedash]

I'd like to see the deck-maker's thoughts on when to use Spine and when to use Permafrost.

[The_Mormegil]

Well, this looks VERY nice. I'll test it a bit when I'm satisfied by Shakar

[zse]

I tried out this deck a bit, and relying on Mindgate for Rewind fodder is really unreliable.

If you're not going to be decked out next turn, rewind Malignant Cell or some other creature and Mindgate that.
If you're going to be decked out, then use Crusader until you get some other creature from Mindgate.

I'd like to see the deck-maker's thoughts on when to use Spine and when to use Permafrost.

Now added to the 1st post.

67%, eh? Quite impressive. I'm fairly certain you'll have to provide a guide for anyone else but a few seasoned vets to get that high. Of course, you did have good matchups in the testing, but it's still impressive.

The win% will come down by default, because now so many FGs are now at 100% wins. My educated guess is that this deck can beat FGs with rate around 60%:
Chaos Lord   95%
Dark Matter    0%
Decay   60%
Destiny   95%
Divine Glory   20%
Dream Catcher   35%
Elidnis   95%
Eternal Phö   0%
Ferox   95%
Fire Queen   95%
Gemini   90%
Graviton   20%
Hermes   0%
Incarnate   95%
Miracle   95%
Morte   70%
Neptune   99%
Obliterator   20%
Octane   80%
Osiris   95%
Paradox   95%
Rainbow   10%
Scorpio   70%
Seism   10%

[wavedash]

If you're not going to be decked out next turn, rewind Malignant Cell or some other creature and Mindgate that.
If you're going to be decked out, then use Crusader until you get some other creature from Mindgate.

Under the assumption that Mindgate gave me no Rewindable creatures, I would have to use my Crusader as my Aflatoxin target. Hopefully you won't need PC. And hopefully you didn't already Quint the Crusader. That last one is also a problem in the second case, too.

[zse]

If you're not going to be decked out next turn, rewind Malignant Cell or some other creature and Mindgate that.
If you're going to be decked out, then use Crusader until you get some other creature from Mindgate.

Under the assumption that Mindgate gave me no Rewindable creatures, I would have to use my Crusader as my Aflatoxin target. Hopefully you won't need PC. And hopefully you didn't already Quint the Crusader. That last one is also a problem in the second case, too.

What? I don't understand how it's even possible for you to end in a such situation with 2x Eternity used in this deck. Did you imagine that assumption of yours, or did that really happen somehow? If it did actually happen, was it perhaps against Octane or Divine Glory? Those 2 are the only FGs that don't have "targetable creatures".

[TheForbiddenOracle]

In my testing only having one mindgate hurts a lot

[wavedash]

What? I don't understand how it's even possible for you to end in a such situation with 2x Eternity used in this deck. Did you imagine that assumption of yours, or did that really happen somehow? If it did actually happen, was it perhaps against Octane or Divine Glory? Those 2 are the only FGs that don't have "targetable creatures".

Mindgate doesn't just have to give you a "targetable creature." It has to actually give you a creature. That's the problem that I sometimes have. Granted, it doesn't happen often, but it's frustrating when it does.

[The_Mormegil]

What about rewinding an opponent creature to Mindgate that? Afaik, most Gods play many creatures, so that wouldn't be a big problem...

[wavedash]

God I feel like such an idiot now. Yeah, that'll do it.

[shteev]

Dude, seriously! I'm indebted to you for suggesting Aflatoxin as an addition to the deck I posted in the Deck Help forum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18989.msg259966#msg259966)... it seems to have helped my deck out a lot. However, considering how many of the other core ideas you used from my deck, I think I'm at least due a mention for deck design in the initial post, aren't I? This deck looks a lot more like mine than it looks like The Charge of the Light Brigade (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18285), doesn't it?

You can put 'shteev threw a hissy fit and demanded he get a deck design credit' if you like, I'm not proud.

Do you get a lot of your best ideas from the deck help forum?

[shteev]

Oh, and I'm not surprised you didn't have much time for a test run... You only had 5 days between me posting my deck, and you posting 'yours'...