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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1075742#msg1075742
« Reply #288 on: May 30, 2013, 08:09:40 pm »
I created an account just to say THANK YOU this deck rocks :) I truly appreciate the thought you put into creating this deck and sharing it with everyone.

As a new player (only been playing for 2 weeks now) this deck has helped me earn a tone of EP quickly (like 80k in just a few days and I now use the 40 card version with every card upped). When I first started playing I did my homework and read up on a lot of decks and one that kept getting recommended to new players was yours. I started with a mono-green rush deck and saved up enough to buy the slim version with an upped light dragon and rage elixirs.

Observations

As stated in the OP you need all 8 cards to deliver the one round knock out, so if you don't have enough quanta to play all 8 at once you lose. You can steal some games depending on which FG you are playing

As a new player with an un-upped slim version of the deck the most important things to know about playing it is that you need to be quanta conscious at all times. Only to tap your hourglasses when you have less than 7 cards or when you have enough mana to play the 8 card combo, sometimes it is better to hide behind your shield for a couple of turns to build up quanta than to take a chance tapping your hourglass and getting the 8 card combo and not having the resource to win.  It took me awhile to figure out the rhythm of the deck, but once I did, I began win games consistently. My best winning streak against FGs was 7 wins in a row  :P

I now play the 40 card fat version of the deck (my favorite variation), I find the fat fat version to sllllllllllllow and the slim version to binary. The 3 sanctuaries and the additional towers in the 40 card version are great additions and I get plenty of EM victories. 

I tried to improve on the deck, by adding a purify like you suggested, but took it out since it's only good against a couple of the opponents and I never seemed to get it when I needed it.   I also tried using Sundials which worked well in some instances and awful in others (ie delayed putting out hourglasses). I found them as much a hindrance as they were helpful and nothing is worse that getting your opening hands with 5 Sundials and no time quanta to play them. So i took them out as well and now just stick to the fat version.


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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1075804#msg1075804
« Reply #289 on: May 31, 2013, 12:07:04 am »
I created an account just to say THANK YOU this deck rocks :) I truly appreciate the thought you put into creating this deck and sharing it with everyone.

As a new player (only been playing for 2 weeks now) this deck has helped me earn a tone of EP quickly (like 80k in just a few days and I now use the 40 card version with every card upped). When I first started playing I did my homework and read up on a lot of decks and one that kept getting recommended to new players was yours. I started with a mono-green rush deck and saved up enough to buy the slim version with an upped light dragon and rage elixirs.

Observations

As stated in the OP you need all 8 cards to deliver the one round knock out, so if you don't have enough quanta to play all 8 at once you lose. You can steal some games depending on which FG you are playing

As a new player with an un-upped slim version of the deck the most important things to know about playing it is that you need to be quanta conscious at all times. Only to tap your hourglasses when you have less than 7 cards or when you have enough mana to play the 8 card combo, sometimes it is better to hide behind your shield for a couple of turns to build up quanta than to take a chance tapping your hourglass and getting the 8 card combo and not having the resource to win.  It took me awhile to figure out the rhythm of the deck, but once I did, I began win games consistently. My best winning streak against FGs was 7 wins in a row  :P

I now play the 40 card fat version of the deck (my favorite variation), I find the fat fat version to sllllllllllllow and the slim version to binary. The 3 sanctuaries and the additional towers in the 40 card version are great additions and I get plenty of EM victories. 

I tried to improve on the deck, by adding a purify like you suggested, but took it out since it's only good against a couple of the opponents and I never seemed to get it when I needed it.   I also tried using Sundials which worked well in some instances and awful in others (ie delayed putting out hourglasses). I found them as much a hindrance as they were helpful and nothing is worse that getting your opening hands with 5 Sundials and no time quanta to play them. So i took them out as well and now just stick to the fat version.
Read some of that, then TL;DR'd out. Anywho, I'd like to piggyback onto this by saying that this deck is what really got me started in the Elements world and thank you, Chapuz, for sharing your genius ^.^
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076715#msg1076715
« Reply #290 on: June 03, 2013, 01:45:06 am »
hey guys is this (limitless speed) as reccomended as the newer frotkal or firecell for a first FG deck? im running a qpbow right now and have no upps/cash/rare. just trying to decide which deck to start working towards. + i do love sanctuary

for all i know i might be better off arena farming 1st...dunno

ps- not really interested in instosis or rol\hope....FYI
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076725#msg1076725
« Reply #291 on: June 03, 2013, 02:43:10 am »
hey guys is this (limitless speed) as reccomended as the newer frotkal or firecell for a first FG deck? im running a qpbow right now and have no upps/cash/rare. just trying to decide which deck to start working towards. + i do love sanctuary

for all i know i might be better off arena farming 1st...dunno

ps- not really interested in instosis or rol\hope....FYI
Use Firecell until you can get the upgrades for Limitless Speed, then use Limitless Speed until you can fully upgrade PDials.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076726#msg1076726
« Reply #292 on: June 03, 2013, 02:48:04 am »
hey guys is this (limitless speed) as reccomended as the newer frotkal or firecell for a first FG deck? im running a qpbow right now and have no upps/cash/rare. just trying to decide which deck to start working towards. + i do love sanctuary

for all i know i might be better off arena farming 1st...dunno

ps- not really interested in instosis or rol\hope....FYI
Use Firecell until you can get the upgrades for Limitless Speed, then use Limitless Speed until you can fully upgrade PDials.
You should make a bronze grinder to get the needed shards for PDials in the middle  :P
Same if you want to make Swallow, get some SoFos and SoPas
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076727#msg1076727
« Reply #293 on: June 03, 2013, 02:58:52 am »
ya sounds about right to me thanks chap!!!
my only prob is i want to keep adding enchant artifact to protect those sanctuaries
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076742#msg1076742
« Reply #294 on: June 03, 2013, 05:05:43 am »
ya sounds about right to me thanks chap!!!
my only prob is i want to keep adding enchant artifact to protect those sanctuaries

Most of the time, 1-2 Salvagers or Cloaks will be more helpful than 1-2 Protect Artifacts. However, note that both Salvager and Cloak have more weaknesses than Protect Artifact, and you may as well leave all three out.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1076953#msg1076953
« Reply #295 on: June 03, 2013, 08:14:04 pm »
ok you mean for draw reliability? BTW i always wind up off topic on these threads so sorry in advance. been trying to work in thorn carapice but it just destroys quanta balance in all my decks so i almost have to keep qpbow style which makes me furious
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1077013#msg1077013
« Reply #296 on: June 03, 2013, 10:51:00 pm »
ok you mean for draw reliability? BTW i always wind up off topic on these threads so sorry in advance. been trying to work in thorn carapice but it just destroys quanta balance in all my decks so i almost have to keep qpbow style which makes me furious
It's cool that you're trying to tweak the deck, but honestly, I don't think it's gonna get any better than it already is.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1077614#msg1077614
« Reply #297 on: June 05, 2013, 08:15:06 pm »
no way am i trying to tweak this deck its perfectly balanced. i was referring to the archetype of qp based quanta and tryin to enchant artifact sanctuary, or add thorn carapice while balancing my similiar deck, add/remov a card or 2 would ruin the symmetry even though the tactics might be sound (synergy) ruining speed or balance annoys me. like trying to add too many ideas when what we need is simplicity. :P
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1079217#msg1079217
« Reply #298 on: June 11, 2013, 01:23:19 am »
I actually love this deck for FG's (only the two gravity mark gods arn't killable cuz of their shards)
i just changed the deck a bit to this one:
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5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 5op 5rp 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 74a 7dr 7dr 7gs 7jq 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7tb 80b 80b 80b 80d 8pu

tactics as usual, first try to keep the shield up,and if you've got no quanta,you can try to stop his monsters with the sundial until you'll got the next shield.
keep an eye onto your quanta,it happens often,thet you only need one card to your combo finish but your quanta isn't ready yet. (mostly the Aether quanta is missing)
you need 18 aether quanta, 13 light quanta, 6 fire quanta, 1gravity quanta and 9 air quanta !

maybe you can add a enchant artifact into it,but i don't really need it,cuz the godz mostly destroy my sancs,so no need imo.

i added two daggers into it (the poseidon is really effective against Phoenix if you can keep him without pillars)
the last 10 fights were EM wins with this deck, maybe just luck,dunno :D
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg1083509#msg1083509
« Reply #299 on: June 28, 2013, 09:08:22 pm »
I am willing to test this variant of the deck on the FGei

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I've had good results with this deck and i like it better than the other variants...

Does anyone think it is worth it? I mean, it's a weird semi-upped version...
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