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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg412801#msg412801
« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2011, 12:55:46 am »
This is what the slim deck is currently sitting at stat wise, Also these are only the semi upped so its a 6 card up instead of the full deck as I could do, If I ran full upped though the stats wouldn't be reflecting the correct values for the deck they are representing. Anyways its a small update as of now I will finish off the games a bit later.

  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]Slim   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     22.08%   
  $ track ?    disabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    77 
  Score/h     n.a.   
  win-loss-(EM)     17-60-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     n.a.   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
  min/game     n.a.   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
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U should put more info such as how many cards u win

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg412846#msg412846
« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2011, 01:45:58 am »
No, won cards are calculated as 35% of the won matches. The games speed would really be more usefull
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg412876#msg412876
« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2011, 02:22:04 am »
You could take the file and make the stats part of your main post if you wanted. Its why I added the file in. I will add that gemini is beatable in all the versions its just hard to do. I have won a couple cards off that fg.

As  far as cards being won its supposed to be 35% I am sitting at a 50% plus on both decks though so say I play 100 games and I win oh say 20.

I have a 20% win rate. So I won 20 games out of those 20 games means I should have won atleast 10 cards if not then maybe 7 so the win rate on cards so far for me has always been at 50% if not higher.

Here is the reason I suggest playing the fat deck over the slim. Less skips which means your not lowering your score nearly as much. But granite you will be playing certain games a bit longer. Does this mean you wont be getting as much electrum? Not necesarrily. It has a higher % win rate and gods that are always beatable at 100% chance are Likely to end up being a EM which means double the electrum and if your lucky like me once in a great blue moon you win 3 cards on 1 set of spins.

I like the fact of getting ems and my score not going down tremendous amounts thats just me though. Everyone has their own thought, My personal suggestion is to try the 3 decks out and see which you prefer. I still remember one of the first posts saying that the first 2 decks CAN NOT WIN, Thats simply not the case. Its just harder when its unupped because in reality your really reliant on keeping certain cards and getting other cards out by a certain time frame. You have no heal. So if you dont get any shields until number 15 in your draw deck well your most likely boned. (This has happened to me which is why I am stating it) There have been games where I havent had the quanta to play a card and used the opponents cards to make my combo.

There are situations where you may feel boned and can't do anything, Here is one of the games I played with an upped version. I was boned because comp pulled a steal/destroy set of creatures that I had to kill in order to win and that left me with 0 rage elixirs. This doesn't mean you cant win just think about what you are doing and you can always win in bad situations. Granite you wont always get the lucky end of the stick but its not always worth giving up either.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg413036#msg413036
« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2011, 10:32:29 am »
STATMASTA tables already in the OP!
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg414725#msg414725
« Reply #88 on: October 23, 2011, 11:50:24 am »
The finsihed stats at 100 for the slim deck, I actually played 103 games but I was trying to get stat masta to do fgei and fgeic alas it failed. Anyways I earned less electrum with this deck between the 2. Lower win rate less ems, I think I got unlucky and even earned less cards. I know the other deck I earned 14k, This deck I earned almost 10k. Not sure on the difference if I were to go to 200 games.



  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]Slim   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     28.16%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    103 
  Score/h     n.a.   
  win-loss-(EM)     29-74-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     03:46:53   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
  min/game     02:12   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg414746#msg414746
« Reply #89 on: October 23, 2011, 12:54:51 pm »
The finsihed stats at 100 for the slim deck, I actually played 103 games but I was trying to get stat masta to do fgei and fgeic alas it failed. Anyways I earned less electrum with this deck between the 2. Lower win rate less ems, I think I got unlucky and even earned less cards. I know the other deck I earned 14k, This deck I earned almost 10k. Not sure on the difference if I were to go to 200 games.



  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]Slim   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     28.16%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    103 
  Score/h     n.a.   
  win-loss-(EM)     29-74-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     03:46:53   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
  min/game     02:12   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
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The difference, again, is the GAME TIME, what you didn't record. That is as importans as the win rate. A deck with A% win rate with B average time is more efective than a deck with 2A% win rate and 3B average time.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg415039#msg415039
« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2011, 02:05:38 am »
I got the fgei and fgei working. Here are the decks fatty and slim.

  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]FAT FAT   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     29.82%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     27.24%   
  games    114 
  Score/h     191   
  win-loss-(EM)     34-80-(18)   
  Score/h (n)    134   
  time (h:m:s)     06:17:34   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3103   
  min/game     03:19   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  2924   
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  deck     Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]Slim   
  players     GiantFrog   
  version    1.29 
  win-rate     28.85%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    104 
  Score/h     55   
  win-loss-(EM)     30-74-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     03:51:04   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3888   
  min/game     02:13   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg415042#msg415042
« Reply #91 on: October 24, 2011, 02:08:00 am »
If you need more decks run and tested let me know chapuz, I cant do mito just because the fact I dont have the Electrum at the moment but I am willing to test out some other unupped decks, I dont really have any shards that are for the otk decks. Arena spins dont like me at all. I will also see if I got the god by god breakdown working properly.

First one is slim Second one is fat fat

  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™realtec    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -21600
   -45
   -21600
   -605
   459
   -21600
   -21600
   637
   -21600
   592
   345
   201
   -21600
   -21600   
   -21600
   972
   -21600
   970
   1131
   -750
   398
   -21600
   -21600
   -621
   903
   -21600
   -21600
   -21600
   262
   -21600
   1844
   -21600
   -605
   4650
   -21600
   -21600
   4651
   -21600
   5667
   4171
   4133
   -21600
   -21600   
   -21600
   7292
   -21600
   6568
   6560
   -750
   4202
   -21600
   -21600
   -621
   6987
   -21600
   -21600
   -21600
   4173
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   2
   
   
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   4
   
   3
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   2
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    6
   
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  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™realtec    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -21600
   404
   -21600
   1045
   404
   -21600
   -21600
   413
   -21600
   288
   851
   -21600
   -21600
   -895   
   -21600
   661
   -21600
   760
   364
   -890
   929
   -21600
   -21600
   -277
   450
   -21600
   -285
   -21600
   158
   -21600
   3139
   -21600
   7787
   2734
   -21600
   -21600
   2797
   -21600
   2421
   5873
   -21600
   -21600
   -895   
   -21600
   4750
   -21600
   4706
   2134
   -890
   5508
   -21600
   -21600
   -277
   3243
   -21600
   -285
   -21600
   2627
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   3
   
   5
   2 
   
   
   2
   
   2
   3
   
   
   
   
   4
   
   3
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   4
   
   
   
   2
   
   
   
   2
   
    3
   
   
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    3
   
    2
   
   
   
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    2
   
   
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    5
   
   
   
    3
    2
   
    3
   
    4
   3
   
   4
   
   
   7
   3
   
   3
   
   
   3
   3
   
   3
   
   4
   
   
   
   
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg415293#msg415293
« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2011, 08:25:02 pm »
Nice Chapuz is probably gonna drop a karma on u ^-^

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg415348#msg415348
« Reply #93 on: October 24, 2011, 10:42:06 pm »
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg415439#msg415439
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2011, 01:54:50 am »
Ill play some more on the unupped slim deck to unlock the last 2 stats that are missing in due time... Im tired beyond belief and just feel like crashing at the moment. Thanks for the +1 karma xD.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg416501#msg416501
« Reply #95 on: October 27, 2011, 02:51:58 pm »
looks good!! im gonna try it in the trainer 1st!!

EDIT : its a little too risky for me! i kept  chewing my nails for the dragon but it didnt come!

fought against 3 fgs and lost all 3 as the dragon didnt turn up and i only had 1 upped hourglass in the battlefield! terrible bad luck for me!

ill try it again some other time when i feel a little more lucky!! :S

 

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