Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic]

[Chapuz]

I also find myself discarding some cards in the beginning

Well, this is a 6-upped-cards FG farmer, not a 100% unupped. With this cards it works like charm.

[AkumaKanashii]

Well ... just to comment this deck, I finally registered to the forums to tell you my thanks to this idea, this deck works way better than I had expected!
In just a couple of days I managed to upgrade 10 cards for this deck by winning and selling the upgraded cards I had won with this deck ...

It really works well, the only problems I was facing:

1. Way too often I encountered the situation having my combocards completed in my hand without enough quantums (mostly for this damned dragon, but also for all three of the parallel universes)
2. I hate gods who love black holes, specially used continiously for 6 rounds

Suggestions:
6 sancturies to play used too much light quanta, therefore I decreased the amount of them to 4. Worked wonders.
Every hourglass should be upgraded, too. 2 time quanta for each draw really hurts...

I'm very satisfied with this deck! Thanks a lot for your efforts!

Sincerly

--A.K.--

[Chapuz]

Well ... just to comment this deck, I finally registered to the forums to tell you my thanks to this idea, this deck works way better than I had expected!
In just a couple of days I managed to upgrade 10 cards for this deck by winning and selling the upgraded cards I had won with this deck ...

It really works well, the only problems I was facing:

1. Way too often I encountered the situation having my combocards completed in my hand without enough quantums (mostly for this damned dragon, but also for all three of the parallel universes)
2. I hate gods who love black holes, specially used continiously for 6 rounds

Suggestions:
6 sancturies to play used too much light quanta, therefore I decreased the amount of them to 4. Worked wonders.
Every hourglass should be upgraded, too. 2 time quanta for each draw really hurts...

I'm very satisfied with this deck! Thanks a lot for your efforts!

Sincerly

--A.K.--

Every single comment of the deck is apreciated. It seems you were using the fat fat version. Note than the slim one wins against less FGs but with more speed and win rate, so you probably will win a lot more cards/hour using it. Try and coment!

[Giantfrog]

I have been using this deck and have had it to the point of being fully upgraded but I had missed out on some stuff before due to being stupid and all selling cards I shouldnt have once upon a time. I am loving this deck, I have been running the six cards upped and having just about a 100% win rate with just a meh hand, The only time your gauranteed to lose is when you Either get no pillars/Pends in your hand or you get all your combo cards right away.

This is what I have noticed between the versions as of so far. The slim obviously doesnt handle the poison very well It has a small chance but not enough of one to really suffice sometimes your just lucky enough to have the ai draw 0 poison and if your lucky on something like serket you get a dimshield before taking any damage, Most the non poison gods is almost a gauranteed win. Giving you dont get a bad hand or all your combo cards right away.

Fat version works well against the poison decks Id say it should have been kept the same as the, Hands are pretty good to start most the time but I in my experience and it may just be my luck since I run the fat fat or slim not the inbetween taking out 1 to 3 sanctuaries makes a huge difference in what you get card wise, Six actually can be a life saver.

Once you get your towers and pendulums upgraded its not a huge issue quanta wise since you will be generating six quanta per tower essentially and 2 per pendulum, This only really applies though when you first put it it bear in mind, No other turns but it really makes a huge difference on what your getting quanta wise. My upgrade order was the following and for the following reasons.

--Cards that must be upgraded prior to farming with this deck
--------Golden --> Light Dragon
--------Rage Potion --> Rage Elixir
--------HourGlasses(Should have at least 2 upgraded for this to be efficient due to time quanta issues and sometimes you need to dig for that last card before your shields run out. Depending on the deck you are running.

--Combo Cards (PU, Sky Blitz) Momentum just doesnt need it for obvious reasons. [(THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE CARDS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED TO BE UPPED PRIOR TO ATTEMPTING TO FARM WITH THIS DECK)]

-------The reason for me upping these is the reduced cost of the cards which allows other cards like shields to be played at their normal cost and not fretting over too much quanta.

--Light Pends/Time Pends

-------The reason I did this second was because that light quanta gen and Time Quanta are needed to get stuff out faster and make sure you have enough for dragon.... The fat fat version doesn't tend to have this problem but the slimmer versions may run into it, If you added a sanctuary into the slim version or 2 sanctuaries for a little heal for possible em You will need it for sure.

-------Shield/Sanctuary

---As the post says you should get your shields done first, This I actually disagree with unless your running the slim version (Just my opinion). Mainly because you may get your last combo card and be short on light quanta because you needed the extra sanctuary to survive but because it cost 4 you didn't get enough, This has happened to me a number of times. It may just be bad luck but when your combo cards only cost like 18 to play instead of 21 you don't have much to fret if your digging at the bottom of your deck for cards to finish the combo, Play smart and just dont throw shield up because you drew it. You can wait another turn if you have another shield and just discard the one you have in your hand.

-------Quantum Towers

---These can be last if you want them to be I did them after I had half of my sanctuaries upped because the extra 3 quanta per tower played even though random made a difference in whether I could get a card out of my hand instead of discarding a card that I may have needed. I still suggest it as last on the to do list but it really is up to you. I did it first on another account that I play and it wasn't too bad, although when I didn't draw them earlier in the match I was pretty much stuck as if the whole deck was not even upped at all.

------HourGlasses

--Your remaining unupped Hourglasses can now be upped. Which should be 1-3 depending on the version of deck you are running with.



Overall this deck does work wonders for only having one creature so its doesn't get affected to much by CC, The only issue ever is the permanents. But even then that is rarely an issue if played correctly.  My overall rating for this deck is above and beyond the stuff that is posted in the false god farming deck studies and I think this should be the top deck out of them all anyways. Good Job as to putting this deck together and I am glad that it still works wonders in 1.29 My rating would be 9/10 just because when its upped you actually tend to gain score not lose it.

deck	Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped]FAT FAT
players	GiantFrog

version	1.29		win-rate	28.07%
$ track ?	disabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	57		Score/h	n.a.
win-loss-(EM)	16-41-(9)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	n.a.		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.
min/game	n.a.		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

[furballdn]

Do you have any stats on this?

[Giantfrog]

I can start keeping stats on it. I wouldn't have a problem with that at all. I have personally been getting most the gods as of recently that are beatable as well so that could be a reason as to why my score has been improving but if the creator of the deck isn't wanting to stat it I am more than willing to do so my self. The deck still works and there are other variations of it out there not quite sure of what their win rate is since I use this one personally.

As of the first night I ran this deck I gained about 9 or so upped cards maybe more within 3 days though the deck was just about completely upped, The fat fat version that is. So as I said I can start keeping stats and all is there a particular deck you want tested or Would you like all 3 done. If its all 3 I will only do one at a time starting with the one that you would choose to play first.

[AkumaKanashii]

In fact I am using a slim fat version with just 4 sancturies. The time I tried this deck first, I started with the slim version. It sure was a bit faster than the fatter versions, but about every damn poison god ripped me apart. No healing caused way too much trouble. And I also learned that the having a secured hand and quantapool is the rescue for nightmares ...

I agree with the upgrading order suggested by Giantfrog. I also faced situations where I wasn't able to play all three Parrallel Universes, what actually destroyed my combo.

Maybe I should start making stats as well...

--A.K.--

[Giantfrog]

The slim version is not made to even handle the poison gods at all. But any of the others should be a fairly easy win. Some gods are just auto quit such as hermes but in anycase instead of quitting out I am planning on attempting all of them atleast 6 times to see if I can get a steady start to it.... Ill upload findings in a couple days. Since I have been working like mad as of late.

[Chapuz]

--Combo Cards (PU, Sky Blitz) Momentum just doesnt need it for obvious reasons.

Remember the dragon is part of the combo and it must be upped to work.

I have a HIGH win rate against Serket with the slim version, just put the 1st dim shield when you have like 4 poison counters and you are done.

And remember there are upped versions too, in the thread at the end of my posts.

Just to say, it's this thread: Limitless Speed FG OTK (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31570.html).
There are lots oc screenshots and awsome stats!

[AkumaKanashii]

Hm ... thinking about upgrades of cards ... what would you suggest when I had all my quantum towers upgraded already? Should I reduce the amount of them? Right now I have 13 ... what would you suggest?

--A.K.--

[mycale]

Just to say: Against serket, you do not need the combo. Just TU an adrenalized deathstalker, and she is gone. She has no CC and no shields, so you will be dealing 4 poison counters and 6 damage every time. Once you get two deathstalkers, you won.

(I do this with the fat version, so I do not know about the slim version).

[Chapuz]

Hm ... thinking about upgrades of cards ... what would you suggest when I had all my quantum towers upgraded already? Should I reduce the amount of them? Right now I have 13 ... what would you suggest?

--A.K.--

Look for the upped version thread just in the post before yours.