Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic]

[OdinVanguard]

With the reduction of half-blood HP from 200 to 150, this deck makes a very nice half-blood hunter.
It can kill with 1 less rage elixer: (12+1+6)*2*4=152
or 1 less PU: (12+1+6+6)*2*3=150
It also can get the OTK by using unupped rage potions and an unupped Gold Dragon: (10+1+5+5)*2*4=168.
So for half-blood hunter, you only really need 3 upped cards (the hourglasses) to get started.
I've only field tested it for a few dozen games so far, but the only ones that give me much trouble are those heavy on PC (deflags, steals or pulvies) and those heavy on momentum. Better the EM rate is extremely high as well.

I think this makes for a great stepping stone deck for newbies trying to work their way up to hunting FG.
AWESOME job Chapuz!

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Thanks so much for taking my game to the next level Chapuz. I started out a week ago with a gay mono-aether deck, now i'm getting close to an almost fully upgraded "fat deck". In the future I'm going to switch to {Intosis} for PVP but for now I'm very happy with one of the coolest decks out there.

[gamefanaticX]

Dear Chapuz,

I started like one month and a half ago with playing elements.
After AI3 grinding I went quiqly to T3 Bronze grinding (but didn't found a deck that won every time yet).
Then i went to PvP1 and realized this was a electrum-mine! Also, I won a few times against players with a lot higher level.
One time I won 3 shards of readiness with the spin!!! It was against a very high player, but yeah I had a good hand and draw. 
Then I thought, it's time for the next step, let's go for the FG's. Did some research on the forum again.
Then I found your deck and just kept grinding PvP1 until I had 10,000 electrum.
While grinding I searched for a good T3 Bronze grinder and found the mono-Darkness (wich I haven't bought yet).

I can't compare to other FG decks, but after 2 losses with slim version, I used your fatty version.
It works fine.
Note that i use the semi-unupped version with 6 upped cards.
The positive thing about the fatty version is, it has those sanctuaries.
Not only do they heal you providing a higher chance to win, but they also have a good chance of giving you a 100HP-bonus win resulting in more electrum.
It doesn't make that much of a difference, 120 electrum instead of 60. But that's still a nice benefit.
But the point is, if you know the concept of a half-god, then it's pretty impressive if you win against it with 100HP left. Wich your fatty-version does..
With it I have like about a 40% win ratio. But i only played 13 games against it yet, so this could be a totally wrong statement.
I haven't tried the fat fat version, but I think the slim version has a low survivability. I'm going to try the fat fat version soon.
I feel like the fatty version needs more hourglasses, like you said about the slim version --> possibly good adjustments.

There are a few things about it though. You told the main strategy is to OHKO with the eight cards and you explained how.
But for example Miracle or Ferox in the games I played haven't used CC yet.
So I lost those games by following the strategy you explained.
Instead I could have won by just using up the twin universes, golden dragon, rage elixers I had in my hand atm.
So for everyone first trying a HG-deck I would explain that with for example Miracle and Ferox, you don't need to follow the strategy strict.
As for the the FG's using CC, a lot of them, I would go for the main strategy you explained.
Okay, maybe I had to do my homework better on the different FG's.

Thanks a lot for the FG-deck  ,

cheers

[Chapuz]

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Dear Chapuz,

I started like one month and a half ago with playing elements.
After AI3 grinding I went quiqly to T3 Bronze grinding (but didn't found a deck that won every time yet).
Then i went to PvP1 and realized this was a electrum-mine! Also, I won a few times against players with a lot higher level.
One time I won 3 shards of readiness with the spin!!! It was against a very high player, but yeah I had a good hand and draw. 
Then I thought, it's time for the next step, let's go for the FG's. Did some research on the forum again.
Then I found your deck and just kept grinding PvP1 until I had 10,000 electrum.
While grinding I searched for a good T3 Bronze grinder and found the mono-Darkness (wich I haven't bought yet).

I can't compare to other FG decks, but after 2 losses with slim version, I used your fatty version.
It works fine.
Note that i use the semi-unupped version with 6 upped cards.
The positive thing about the fatty version is, it has those sanctuaries.
Not only do they heal you providing a higher chance to win, but they also have a good chance of giving you a 100HP-bonus win resulting in more electrum.
It doesn't make that much of a difference, 120 electrum instead of 60. But that's still a nice benefit.
But the point is, if you know the concept of a half-god, then it's pretty impressive if you win against it with 100HP left. Wich your fatty-version does..
With it I have like about a 40% win ratio. But i only played 13 games against it yet, so this could be a totally wrong statement.
I haven't tried the fat fat version, but I think the slim version has a low survivability. I'm going to try the fat fat version soon.
I feel like the fatty version needs more hourglasses, like you said about the slim version --> possibly good adjustments.

There are a few things about it though. You told the main strategy is to OHKO with the eight cards and you explained how.
But for example Miracle or Ferox in the games I played haven't used CC yet.
So I lost those games by following the strategy you explained.
Instead I could have won by just using up the twin universes, golden dragon, rage elixers I had in my hand atm.
So for everyone first trying a HG-deck I would explain that with for example Miracle and Ferox, you don't need to follow the strategy strict.
As for the the FG's using CC, a lot of them, I would go for the main strategy you explained.
Okay, maybe I had to do my homework better on the different FG's.

Thanks a lot for the FG-deck  ,

cheers

HERE is a list with the FG decks, where you can see what FGs have CC.

About Ferox, it heals like a monster. You can play an incomplete combo if you have the cards and quanta, he won't kill your dragons because it doesn't have any kind of CC. They will surely not kill him though, but you get your hand clean.

[gamefanaticX]

Good news to everyone!!! In the 1.30 update now AI preferes to steal and destroy Sundials before Hourglasses and Dimentional Shields! That means there is a possibility of having a higher win rate adding 6 sundials to the deck, as baits for hourglasses and shields! Due a pair of exams I have next week, I will be able to start making stats next friday, so any help is welcome.

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by Chapuz

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EDIT: testing version 2: Lots'a healling, lots'a stall, lots'a OHKO

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I use your fat fat version now. For me this works at least as good as the fatty version.

Sundials are a nice addition.
I added 3 sundials to try-out.
One time I was against Fire Queen.
I used a sundial to get rid of it and make space to find the last card for the combo, digging through the last 4 cards. I still had one card in my deck.
So I used all the cards for the combo, pressed SPACE-bar and nothing happened, Fire Queen's turn.
The phase shield kept me alive, just in time to deck out the last turn  .
I thought how did this happened?
Then I realised, damn, it was that sundial.
Okay not very smart of me to start drawing while using the sundial.
At the other hand, I'm not used to playing this deck and only play for a short time.
Sundial isn't a shield so momentum can't help you.

Sundials IMO are a nice addition.
But for all the newbie players like myself, don't use a sundial at the same time you dig for your last combo-card like I did  .

[gamefanaticX]

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HERE is a list with the FG decks, where you can see what FGs have CC.

About Ferox, it heals like a monster. You can play an incomplete combo if you have the cards and quanta, he won't kill your dragons because it doesn't have any kind of CC. They will surely not kill him though, but you get your hand clean.
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Thanks for the comment. In that case either way I would have lost to Ferox, didn't had shields up in time.
But I use fat fat version now, I think I would have had a higher chance with fat fat.

[Chapuz]

Good news to everyone!!! In the 1.30 update now AI preferes to steal and destroy Sundials before Hourglasses and Dimentional Shields! That means there is a possibility of having a higher win rate adding 6 sundials to the deck, as baits for hourglasses and shields! Due a pair of exams I have next week, I will be able to start making stats next friday, so any help is welcome.

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by Chapuz

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EDIT: testing version 2: Lots'a healling, lots'a stall, lots'a OHKO

by Chapuz

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Spoiler for Hidden:

I use your fat fat version now. For me this works at least as good as the fatty version.

Sundials are a nice addition.
I added 3 sundials to try-out.
One time I was against Fire Queen.
I used a sundial to get rid of it and make space to find the last card for the combo, digging through the last 4 cards. I still had one card in my deck.
So I used all the cards for the combo, pressed SPACE-bar and nothing happened, Fire Queen's turn.
The phase shield kept me alive, just in time to deck out the last turn  .
I thought how did this happened?
Then I realised, damn, it was that sundial.
Okay not very smart of me to start drawing while using the sundial.
At the other hand, I'm not used to playing this deck and only play for a short time.
Sundial isn't a shield so momentum can't help you.

Sundials IMO are a nice addition.
But for all the newbie players like myself, don't use a sundial at the same time you dig for your last combo-card like I did  .

Sundials can help, and a lot. The only reason I didn't put 6 in each deck was because they consume  and it uses to be the tightest elements, speaking about quanta. I have just thought that it's more probable to gain the consumed  than don't doing it, so they would be absolutely useful.

The only precaution to take: DO NOT draw the last card of the deck if you have just played a Sundial! 

I will make some stats for each deck with 6 Sundials in each one, starting next Tuesday (exams until Tuesday, sorry). If anyone can help me gaining time with personal stats, I would be grateful!

[gamefanaticX]

The only precaution to take: DO NOT draw the last card of the deck if you have just played a Sundial

You mean, don't draw cards when you have just played a sundial and already have 7 of the eight cards for the combo in your hand.
This can be the case if you still have for instance 10 cards in your deck.
But, it's even more stupid playing sundial and start drawing the last card... wich I did  .

[Harune]

Thank you for this epic deck Chapuz! I've been using it for about a week now, and so far I've almost upgraded half the deck already.(Haven't really been playing that much X3 Would probably have fully upped by now if I wasn't lazy)
This deck brings so much fun to the game, I was close to forgetting about the game completely when I discovered the forums and this deck, and now I'm playing again. It can be seriously annoying sometimes, when I don't draw any hourglasses or shields to save my butt in the beginning. I actually lost to MIRACLE because of this <.< But then again, sometimes this deck is just so hilarious to play, especially when this happens:

276 HP OHKO with EM, sure, why not? Since you were so kind as to make me a kick-ass blessed Pegasus to work with.
(Technically not OTK since he was already damaged, but would have died anyway, so whatevs.)

[Blaze]

With the reduction of half-blood HP from 200 to 150, this deck makes a very nice half-blood hunter.
It can kill with 1 less rage elixer: (12+1+6)*2*4=152
or 1 less PU: (12+1+6+6)*2*3=150
It also can get the OTK by using unupped rage potions and an unupped Gold Dragon: (10+1+5+5)*2*4=168.
So for half-blood hunter, you only really need 3 upped cards (the hourglasses) to get started.
I've only field tested it for a few dozen games so far, but the only ones that give me much trouble are those heavy on PC (deflags, steals or pulvies) and those heavy on momentum. Better the EM rate is extremely high as well.

I think this makes for a great stepping stone deck for newbies trying to work their way up to hunting FG.
AWESOME job Chapuz!

Here's the list I grind HBs with. I started with nearly everything unupped except hour glasses and quantum towers. Anyway I think it's time for me to start grinding FGs, but the deck has served me well against HBs.

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[Chapuz]

How do I insert a previewed screen shot of the deck?

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[andretimpa]

I found this version works well enough for a starting point (with only 3 upgrades)

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