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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg402207#msg402207
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 05:35:17 pm »
My complaint is that the combo needs so many cards at once that it clutters your hand, if you draw them too early.
It seems you haven't tried the deck yet.  Almost every time you can play every single non-combo card of your hand, excluding the shields you are chaining. If you have any card that you must discard because you don't have the needed quanta, just do it. There are more hourglasses and sanctuaries than what you need. Also, many times you have more shields than what you need and play a shield when another one has 1 or 2 remaining turns. And finally, 99% of the times the 8th combo card is in the last 5 cards of the deck, what leaves you without any trouble.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg403246#msg403246
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 07:34:54 am »
Here it is one game I had. The purifies are really useful.

Also, out of curiosity, how many upped cards do you usually get?

I have beaten 20 gods and only gotten 1 card... is this normal?

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg403300#msg403300
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 10:20:58 am »
Here it is one game I had. The purifies are really useful.

Also, out of curiosity, how many upped cards do you usually get?

I have beaten 20 gods and only gotten 1 card... is this normal?
LOL, beating 20 FGs should bring you like 7 cards, but that's matter of luck and not of the deck you use. I have had days with the luck you said you have and days of winning a card every 1 or 2 FGs defeated.

I have seen the Purify is only usefull to EM Serket, Morte and Elidnis. With all the healing this deck has, I don't think EMing them is worth a card, as without the Purify you still win almost every single game against them. I guess it's matter of taste.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg403986#msg403986
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 11:56:02 am »
It's not completely unupped, so you can't use it in unupped formats, but for FG grinding... I don't know. Maybe. What's the win rate compared to Flay Em, Liquid Antimatter, etc.?

Don't bother using it for arena. Everyone and their mother packs 12x Deflag.

Never mind. This kicks the crap out of most of the most popular arena decks (fire stall, speedbow, big fat rainbow, ghostmare) despite the huge amount of PC. Has troubles against:

Very fast rushes (fire rush, some speedbows)
Quanta deprivation (EQ, BH if you can't get up a Sanctuary)
Shard of Divinity
Liquid Antimatter has much lower win rate than Flay 'EM.
I personally love Flay 'EM and that was the deck that inspired me to make this one. It's direct and simple: shields, golems, mind flayers, quints, pulvys and that's it. I wanted to make a semi unupped deck (up to 6 upped cards) with higher win rate than Flay 'EM and I finally got it. The only cons i find to this deck is that at the beginning may be quite hard to play. You must know when you should discard a hourglass to draw cards fast with the others and when you should play or save a shield. In the fatty and fat fat versions you also should know when to play a sanctuary and when to discard it to save light quanta. When playing a while and starting to upgrade the shards there is another philosophical questions, as "Play a shard or a sanctuary?", "play a shard or save time quanta for the 1st hourglass?"
In other words, this deck has higher win rate than Flay 'EM (at least the slim version), so more win rate than Liquid Antimatter too (even 1.28 LA).

Thanks! I haven't tasted any of the unupped versions in the Arena yet, but I think the slim and fatty versions would have a really nice rate.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404051#msg404051
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 02:34:11 pm »
Great deck, has a lot higher winrate compared to my half-upped RoL-Hope, and is more fun, thanks for sharing. ;)

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404343#msg404343
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 12:08:20 am »
got like 70 % at platinum league with this deck (upped some Quantum Pillar think 5, cause i had the money for it.)
but i got like 50% at the ur stated FG's , I just skip the other FG's.

keep up the work, at least works better than the cc why bother unupped deck.

Additionaly could u state what to upgrade first to get to your upped version? would be nice.

PS: using the FAT FAT version

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404363#msg404363
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 12:41:48 am »
got like 70 % at platinum league with this deck (upped some Quantum Pillar think 5, cause i had the money for it.)
but i got like 50% at the ur stated FG's , I just skip the other FG's.

keep up the work, at least works better than the cc why bother unupped deck.

Additionaly could u state what to upgrade first to get to your upped version? would be nice.

PS: using the FAT FAT version
If you are running aiming to the upgraded fatty version (which I recommend), my recommended upgade list would be:

- Light Dragon, both Rage Elixirs and 3 Hourglasses (as the unupped version).
- Remaining hourglasses
- Shards and Time pendulums
- Light pendulums and Sanctuaries
- Shields
- Twin Universes
- Towers and Sky Blitz
- Unstoppable is not worth upgrading at all, as it's merely impossible to get less than 2 gravity quanta with so many towers.

I will put it in the OP.

BTW, 70% ON PLATINUM LEAGUE WITH AN UNUPPED DECK = EPIC AWSOMENESS
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404671#msg404671
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 03:31:51 pm »
em is most likely if you win in platinum, which causes massive amount of gold.

additionaly, some decks Platinum uses are rly weak against this deck.
Some examples:
Mono Aether, Time, Water, Life, Entropy, Light
Nymph Decks mostly
Rainbows without Pulverizer

Also, some medium chances are: decks with steals in it and explosions

pain in the ass-decks:
Pulvi
Mono-Fire (rush and PC)
Poison
Gravity
Earth

Thats what i worked out yet.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404682#msg404682
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 03:49:46 pm »
em is most likely if you win in platinum, which causes massive amount of gold.

additionaly, some decks Platinum uses are rly weak against this deck.
Some examples:
Mono Aether, Time, Water, Life, Entropy, Light
Nymph Decks mostly
Rainbows without Pulverizer

Also, some medium chances are: decks with steals in it and explosions

pain in the ass-decks:
Pulvi
Mono-Fire (rush and PC)
Poison
Gravity
Earth

Thats what i worked out yet.
Actually, poison decks are not that bad, depending the version you are playing. Many prople said that the slim version is the best one, as others prefere the fat fat one cuz of the healing and EMs.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg404697#msg404697
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2011, 04:12:38 pm »
just got 3 extra spins today ^^ playing since 2 hours or so

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg407557#msg407557
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2011, 02:50:49 pm »
just got 3 extra spins today ^^ playing since 2 hours or so
Cool! in what Arena? I am usind the slim version against gold  :P
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31572.msg407610#msg407610
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2011, 05:13:59 pm »
This works actually much better than I thought. And it's great fun too when I'm bored of playing the same old CCYB and other decks.

 

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