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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg509538#msg509538
« Reply #168 on: June 09, 2012, 09:53:51 pm »
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Good news to everyone!!! In the 1.30 update now AI preferes to destroy Sundials before Hourglasses and Dimentional Shields! That means there is a possibility of having a higher win rate adding 6 sundials to the deck, as baits for hourglasses and shields! Due a pair of exams I have next week, I will be able to start making stats next friday, so any help is welcome.
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EDIT: testing version 2: fatty version, -5 SoG, +6 Sundials. Any help with stats is appreciated.
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Why the sundials aren't upgraded?
Because when upgraded they cost 0 quantum, what can cause you to start with 0 pilars and just sundials as 0 cost cards because of the mulligan. It doesnt work much better with those, though.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg509625#msg509625
« Reply #169 on: June 10, 2012, 04:04:01 am »
So that's why I was starting with few pillars xD
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg511764#msg511764
« Reply #170 on: June 16, 2012, 11:00:58 am »
i just made a new account about a week ago and i immediately started to work on getting this. i am currently using the slim semi-unupped version and facing the halfbloods/arena silver immediately after i completed the 500 score quest and i LOVE it. the version im using ohks (almost perfectly) the halfbloods, and thats what i was looking for (cant wait to start upgrading cards.)
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg512294#msg512294
« Reply #171 on: June 18, 2012, 02:44:04 am »
Why isn't this deck on the wiki?

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg512299#msg512299
« Reply #172 on: June 18, 2012, 02:58:00 am »
Why isn't this deck on the wiki?
Do people that know the forums read the wiki? o.o

I think it's useless, unless it has something I didn't notice...
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg513286#msg513286
« Reply #173 on: June 20, 2012, 11:21:39 pm »
I happen to read both...This deck is amazing and the best False God Farmer I have ever used.  My second choice is Scared Girl's unupped deck.....but I use a completely upgraded deck and added +2 Sanc and +2 SoG.  That deck is epic too.  I really would like to thank you for such an awesome idea.

But, seriously....I found the wiki on elements before I even found the game.....this deck should be there.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg533674#msg533674
« Reply #174 on: August 16, 2012, 10:25:39 am »
I've been a big fan of your LS OTK since the semi-upped version pretty much got me started. I got sooo bored with this game grinding AI3's etc to get like 1 up a week :P If it weren't for that deck to get me going I probably wouldn't be playing anymore!
I highly suggest switching out 4 of the time pends for towers since you're pretty much never strained on  :aether, but I do often have problems getting out the hourglasses, especially early.

By the way, how did the testing go with the addition of dials? I'm already more then satisfied with the amount of FGs this can beat and it seems to me that it will only really make it better against 1 or 2 gods as the ones with mass PC will eventually go for the shields after anyways.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg533724#msg533724
« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2012, 01:59:34 pm »
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I've played with Chapuz's deck (limitless speed one) several times and I like the deck idea. I've modified it in order to obtain some changes and now I really love it. I see now you are considering Sundials so it's possible this version will be no help you but I want to share it (maybe it will help).
- more speed: six hourglasses, not five. If the FG wants to shut down your speed he has to control more and has less rounds to do so.
- more  :time quanta (4 towers + 3 pendulums). Hourglasses are useless if you don't have the fuel to play them plus the quanta needed every turn to make them work. With such speed you will often stop yourself simply because you are running too fast and maybe you need more turns to obtain  :fire / :air quanta or even  :aether quanta in some cases. It's better to be slow in the end when you have a lot of stuffs then in the beginning when you aren't protected and have poor healing.
:aether quanta balanced: 7 pendulums are usually enough.
- 7 quantum towers in this 45 card deck usually give me what I need.
- healing is balanced: 24 hp/turn is usually enough for every FG this deck can beat. Not 6 sanctuaries but 5 + 2 purify: less  :light quanta to use and the ability to survive against bad luck versus 3 FG with heavy poison. The goal is not to get full life but only to survive so you don't really need more then 2 purifies.
- I want deck max size to be 45 and no more simply because I want to evade as much as I can bad draws and give this deck a very consistent speed. I know, 30 card is better for bad draws but considering all... I find this setup to be good.

These are my feelings...

Really nice deck
But the transitioning from the traditional speed otk to this fast->slow playing style needs some getting use to.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg534668#msg534668
« Reply #176 on: August 18, 2012, 10:38:21 pm »
The one I use:
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It had: -2 Light Pillar, -2 Time Tower, -1 Electrum Hourglass, +2 Light Pendulum, +2 Time Pendulum.
I made those modifications based on geminipain's post, decreasing the production of :aether quanta and putting more 1 Hourglass.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg537396#msg537396
« Reply #177 on: August 29, 2012, 11:55:01 pm »
It is amazing but this still works pretty dang well. Tried it in PvP2 and found 2 things that I suspected beforehand.
1) Loses to any deck with 2+SoFo
2) Wins to almost any deck without 2+SoFo

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg537426#msg537426
« Reply #178 on: August 30, 2012, 01:04:02 am »
It is amazing but this still works pretty dang well. Tried it in PvP2 and found 2 things that I suspected beforehand.
1) Loses to any deck with 2+SoFo
2) Wins to almost any deck without 2+SoFo
Instosis is probably a faster and better OTK to use in PvP. PC kills a lot of OTK decks, and SoFo is an OP PC card that's OU.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg537513#msg537513
« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2012, 04:27:14 am »
It is amazing but this still works pretty dang well. Tried it in PvP2 and found 2 things that I suspected beforehand.
1) Loses to any deck with 2+SoFo
2) Wins to almost any deck without 2+SoFo
Instosis is probably a faster and better OTK to use in PvP. PC kills a lot of OTK decks, and SoFo is an OP PC card that's OU.
True but I only have life and Light shards. Also, I should clarify that I use the slim version. I'm also using it to grind FGs for these must needed shards but its fun to see if I can face a shard-heavy deck without SoFo and try to win a shard :S

 

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