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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg405948#msg405948
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2011, 07:27:39 pm »
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Okay, with the 1.29 update, I created a version which can make more than 200 damages in 1 turn !

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Okay, the only changes in the deck are seven of the eight cards of the combo.
4 Shard of Readiness
1 Chimera
1 Mitosis
1 Sky Blitz (no change)
1 Silurian Dragon

How to play the combo (You will see, it's very funny^^) :
Step 1 : Put the Silurian Dragon into play and the mitosis on it. Total amount of damages = 13
Step 2 : Put a shard of readiness on the Silurian Dragon and play its ability 2 times to get 2 additional dragons.  Total amount of damages = 13 + 2*13 = 39
Step 3 : Repeat "Step 2" 3 times again. Don't forget you must play the shards on the mitosified dragon. Total amount of damages = 39 + 6*13 = 117
Step 4 : Play Sky Blitz for double damages. Total amount of damages = 117*2 = 234
Step 5 : Play the chimera to pass through shields. This step is not necessary if you have no shield to pass through.

In conclusion, you can play the combo with only 7 cards if the opponent have no shield in play, or if that shield doesn't generate a damage reduction which exess 34.

I think this deck could have improvements in these ways :
The light quanta is less exploited : maybe add a sanctiary...
Same thing for the aether quanta : add mindgates...

Have fun ;)
YES, YES, YES! I will work on it now!

It's a OHKO, so Chimera isn't needed (dragons only blocked by gravity shield and no FG has one). Sooo it's a 6 card combo!!! Quanta issues in progress. Wanting to see if there can be made a slim verion of it! Mindgates are useless, as you want to make the OHKO ASAP.

Deck in the OP.

Chimera is needed if you have to pass through phase shield or bone wall for example. Don't forget chimera give the momentum.
After, the combo needs at least 7 cards :
1 Silurian Dragon, 1 Mitosis, 4 shards to have a couple of dragons with each ones, and 1 sky blitz : 7 cards.
With only 3 shards, the amount of damages does not exess 182 (7 dragons).

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg405950#msg405950
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2011, 07:33:49 pm »
You are damn right. I am thinking which is better way to make more time quanta generation to get the Hourglasses and the late dragon without sacrifying defense.

EDIT: Not anymore, I think the pre 1.29 version is better: You don't know what quanta element will the SoR consume, and that can screw your limited air and gravity quantum leaving you without combo. If there's a way to make it more stable, it would be even faster than the current version (impossible to have time quanta issues).  I love your funny idea anyway, so much that i will keep the deck on the OP so people can think on a more stable version.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406109#msg406109
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2011, 12:16:26 am »
I love this deck -- thanks for sharing it.

I'm working on upgrading mine right now :]

So far: 1 rage elixir :p

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406110#msg406110
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2011, 12:18:21 am »
I love this deck -- thanks for sharing it.

I'm working on upgrading mine right now :]

So far: 1 rage elixir :p
Hey, i saw you put it in the FG decks thread xD Thanks! It will be there as soon as it reaches the 30 comments.

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406113#msg406113
« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2011, 12:25:44 am »
Effective deck, and much more fun to play than CCYB or RoL/Hope!

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406118#msg406118
« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2011, 12:29:17 am »
Effective deck, and much more fun to play than CCYB or RoL/Hope!
I didn´t compare stats with the contemporary CCYB in 1.29 because CCYB's stats haven't been made yet, but i guess this deck's win rate is not so inferior... Considering that SoG is not a vital card of this deck.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406348#msg406348
« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2011, 01:10:55 pm »
Have you tried adding lobotomizer?

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406379#msg406379
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2011, 02:40:25 pm »
Have you tried adding lobotomizer?
The biggest problem is PC, not momentum or poison. Akebono's Chimera is a problem as 2 early Scorpio's physalias, but dark matter is beatable. I don't wanna add a card just for increasing the probabilitys of winning only 2 FGs.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406666#msg406666
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2011, 09:36:32 pm »
this deck is fun but very slow, you need to build your quantas and gather the combo cards and this take lots of turns during which you have to wait the computer play horribly slow.

you may replace 1 shard of readiness by one blessing
or 2 shards by 1 blessing and 1 rage elixir

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406673#msg406673
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2011, 09:51:11 pm »
this deck is fun but very slow, you need to build your quantas and gather the combo cards and this take lots of turns during which you have to wait the computer play horribly slow.

you may replace 1 shard of readiness by one blessing
or 2 shards by 1 blessing and 1 rage elixir
I think you don't understand the idea of the 1.29 version. It's a OTK (One Turn Kill, make 200 damage in 1 turn), and you have to play THAT combo in one turn. Replacing SoR for blessings just will ruin the combo.
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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406690#msg406690
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2011, 10:18:36 pm »
this deck is fun but very slow, you need to build your quantas and gather the combo cards and this take lots of turns during which you have to wait the computer play horribly slow.

you may replace 1 shard of readiness by one blessing
or 2 shards by 1 blessing and 1 rage elixir
I think you don't understand the idea of the 1.29 version. It's a OTK (One Turn Kill, make 200 damage in 1 turn), and you have to play THAT combo in one turn. Replacing SoR for blessings just will ruin the combo.
then explain me how it ruins the combo, light quanta is less exploited and fire quanta not at all :
original combo :     ((13)×(1+2+2+2+2))×2 = 234
1 blessing :            ((13+3)×(1+2+2+2))×2 = 224
1 blessing 1 elixir : ((13+3+6)×(1+2+2))×2 = 220

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Re: Limitless speed FG OTK [Epic] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=31570.msg406691#msg406691
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2011, 10:21:24 pm »
this deck is fun but very slow, you need to build your quantas and gather the combo cards and this take lots of turns during which you have to wait the computer play horribly slow.

you may replace 1 shard of readiness by one blessing
or 2 shards by 1 blessing and 1 rage elixir
I think you don't understand the idea of the 1.29 version. It's a OTK (One Turn Kill, make 200 damage in 1 turn), and you have to play THAT combo in one turn. Replacing SoR for blessings just will ruin the combo.
then explain me how it ruins the combo, light quanta is less exploited and fire quanta not at all :
original combo :     ((13)×(1+2+2+2+2))×2 = 234
1 blessing :            ((13+3)×(1+2+2+2))×2 = 224
1 blessing 1 elixir : ((13+3+6)×(1+2+2))×2 = 220
No, no. You are forgetting it's Mitosis and not Twin Universe.
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