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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg35379#msg35379
« Reply #216 on: March 09, 2010, 01:57:06 am »
Okay guess i'm gonna rant and rage a little bit now so if you don't want to hear me whine maybe you should pass on this post. It's been a very difficult tough go lately and i just want to throw my laptop. Just finished 150 games and i have to say... I AM NOT HAPPY. What makes me more frustrated is that i'm not sure if i can blame it on the build, bad luck, or just a mass of bad FG's.

http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=1491316809
LOL, same thing happened to me yesturday.

I usually do pretty well with Vreely's decks, but when I tried the 36 card deck yesturday things went pretty bad (32% win rate).  Got mostly hard FGs and when I finally got some easy ones, I got horrible draws.   Just goes to show how much luck can play in this game.   Some of it might have been due to the deck and or my lack of ability to use it properly, but I think it was just pure bad luck.   Maybe the deck is Jinxed... JK

I do have a little feedback on the deck.  Several times I found myself waiting around for that first Quint to show up.  Maybe swapping out a Phase Shield for a Quint might be better?
Yeah, I'll let you know if I give it another go and replace 1 steal with 1 Quint.   

Problem with this game is the high amount of RNG (randomness) and it would take hundreds of games to get a result with high confidence.   Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a game of slots vs a game of skill. 
 

Vreely

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg39215#msg39215
« Reply #217 on: March 16, 2010, 01:20:30 pm »
Its been awhile since this post was updated.  I think the new Hope shield coming out is going to rock the boat a bit.   If it stays how it is now, I think downgrading the queen and replacing a Phase Shield with a Hope is a good change to one of the druid based versions of the deck.   I don't want to grind too much in the trainer, but when Hope comes out, I will likely test a variant for this.

Edit:  Nevermind.   Hope was rebalanced, as it should have been.  The upgrade now blocks 1 less damage, and costs 3 more light to cast.   Not so easy just to throw into an existing rainbow deck now.

Vreely

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg39357#msg39357
« Reply #218 on: March 16, 2010, 07:38:25 pm »
As promised in a previous post found here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2156.msg37033#msg37033) I did track games that took me a long time to win due to not having a druid.   Again, the criteria I used is explained in my previous post. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2156.msg37033#msg37033)

Here is what I came up with:
  • Game 126 - start tracking
  • 141 - Seism early PA diamond shield (4 rewinds)
  • 159 - Elidnis.  early pulvy killed EBs, early oty got big, very late queen to contend with jade shield (8 rewinds)
  • 173 - Chaos Lord.  He destroyed my graveyard early & Pulv was very last card.  2nd Oty mutated to poison ability.  Poison killed him about the time I cracked the dis shield (15 rewinds)
  • 218 - Obliterator.  Protected Diamond shield + Protected Pulvy made this one take forever.  Had to keep his Pulvy busy on my bone wall to keep FBs in play.  (6 rewinds)
  • 221 - Seism.  Mid-game PA Diamond shield (3 rewinds)
  • 231 - Seism.  Very last card was my Pulvy so could not destroy the shield.  (5 rewinds)
  • 250 - Final game tracked (rolled over to 1.20)
Out of all 124 games, the only painful one was Game 173 against Chaos Lord.   So, yes, leaving the druid out does slow you down, but if you play it right, its not nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be.

Muellje

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg43218#msg43218
« Reply #219 on: March 24, 2010, 12:14:45 pm »
I just wanted to say thanks here. I've been playing a 40 card version of this deck for a while now, and it helped me to get alot of electrum and cards. I just upped my last sundial in this deck, so i thought it was time to post here. :D

This is the version I use.
(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/de/)

I started playing this deck with uped pillars, a druid, only 2 upped hourglasses and 2 novas, but no pulvy and miracle. The rest of the deck was unupgraded. i used 2 novas instead of the hourglasses, so the deck was at 38 cards without the pulvy and miracle, which I added later.
It was a little tough in the beginning... But I got lucky, when winning a game and sometimes won 2 cards, once I won 3.
Now I am finally at the point, where I can save electrum and dont have to sell the cards I win, and its all thanks to this deck  :-*

Even though I lost more games in the beginning, than I won, I netted enough quantum through card and EM wins (miracle helps here!), to make the deck stronger and stronger.
I upgraded the otyughs first,then 2 more hourglasses, then the queen, the bone wall and graveyard and the ether cards. I upgraded the PAs, the sundials and eternity last.
Maybe my post will encourage some people to use this deck as a kick off into "wealth", as I did.

Thanks again,
cheers Muellje.

Muellje

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg44863#msg44863
« Reply #220 on: March 28, 2010, 07:29:38 pm »
Sadly, this deck just got screwed with the new patch...  >:D
Still playable, but not as good as before. I dont like it  >:(

Damokles

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg44904#msg44904
« Reply #221 on: March 28, 2010, 10:07:45 pm »
so, with the hourgalss and eternity nerf...

Im thinking about switching to a slim entropy deck and get rid of the hourglasses, what do you think?

Laxaria

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg45051#msg45051
« Reply #222 on: March 29, 2010, 11:59:22 am »
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This deck above was built specifically after the 1.21 change. I took out all the sundials to prevent them from ruining bad draws, while added in the supernovas to further boost my Quanta gain.

The lack of dials make it more prone to early rushes, but if you can draw the right cards fast enough, combined with auto-mulligan to stop 0-tower hands, it might work a bit better, but I haven't tried it. If you can get 2 Entropy Quanta fast, it would help a lot. Perhaps a fatter version for those without SoGs.

I haven't had any statistics, except for a win against Chaos Lord and Seism, so feel free to try it. I don't know how good it is, but I hope I can get the ball rolling.

dlantz

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg388260#msg388260
« Reply #223 on: September 02, 2011, 09:47:22 pm »
I've only been playing this game for a few weeks, but since I started I've been playing with the following deck lately:

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My win percentage isn't great since there's so many different gods I have no answer for, but against playable gods it generates a pretty decent win rate.  (Since I just quit the ones I can't beat as soon as I see them, at least it's fairly quick farming).  Anyone with more experience that can help me tweak this to be more competitive?

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Re: ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2156.msg388479#msg388479
« Reply #224 on: September 03, 2011, 01:16:53 pm »


Anyone with more experience that can help me tweak this to be more competitive?
Yes: Go to THIS THREAD (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html) and pick an up to date, competitive deck.

Closest to this is any CCYB-variant since they are also rainbow decks. Then again, its not really close anyways.

Ivalmians deck was very good back in the days (especially the variant I made for it *cough) but nowadays it's just
too slow to keep up with the real reapers.


 

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