ivalmian's Rainbow SpeedDeck (kills almost all FG with elem master for v1.17+)

[elfreth]

Ha hahahaha

Chalk it all up to lady luck smiling on me for a few games, I'm sure it will go back to "normal" soon

[ivalmian]

Ha hahahaha

Chalk it all up to lady luck smiling on me for a few games, I'm sure it will go back to "normal" soon

seriously, keep me updated on how it goes

Also.. when I play, I actually replace the SoG with sundial... may be 'tis a better thing :p

[elfreth]

After 15 games:

ivalmian jangoo variant:
destiny         3   0 (em)
hermes         1   1 (em)(wow, dead in 4 turns)
divine glory   0   1 (almost....sigh)
miracle         2   0
rainbow         1   1 (20 effing cards w/o an hourglass/oty/phase shield)(em)
fire queen      1   0  (no qt in draw)
paradox         1   0 (em&3cards)
scorpio         2   0
chaos lord      1   0 (crazy game, had to force him to deck-out)

80%
I'm afraid to keep playing...I'm due for a "market-correction"

Clearly this is skewed, as I've been fortunate to be presented w/ FG's other than Seism/DG/Graviton.  I think there may also be some that I forgot to record.  Wins and losses though, so hopefully they're a wash. 

I have added a single card though, which was critical to both wins vs. Scorpio.  That would be purify.  Figured it was more than worth it to have the one water quanta purify and increase the deck to 41 cards than to lose because of 20 poison before you can ever get your own deck goin.

[ivalmian]

After 15 games:

ivalmian jangoo variant:
destiny         3   0 (em)
hermes         1   1 (em)(wow, dead in 4 turns)
divine glory   0   1 (almost....sigh)
miracle         2   0
rainbow         1   1 (20 effing cards w/o an hourglass/oty/phase shield)(em)
fire queen      1   0  (no qt in draw)
paradox         1   0 (em&3cards)
scorpio         2   0
chaos lord      1   0 (crazy game, had to force him to deck-out)

80%
I'm afraid to keep playing...I'm due for a "market-correction"

Clearly this is skewed, as I've been fortunate to be presented w/ FG's other than Seism/DG/Graviton.  I think there may also be some that I forgot to record.  Wins and losses though, so hopefully they're a wash. 

I have added a single card though, which was critical to both wins vs. Scorpio.  That would be purify.  Figured it was more than worth it to have the one water quanta purify and increase the deck to 41 cards than to lose because of 20 poison before you can ever get your own deck goin.

80%... rofl.. I've never had 80% on any deck :p

[ivalmian]

hm.. i'm trying with 2 upped sundials... still not sure if they are better then unupped though :p

[Vreely]

I finally hit 100 games.  Here are the updated statistics. (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2872398504)

I managed a 0.48 win rate, which is pretty good since my 2 most frequent opponents were Gravitron and Rainbow (23 games against these two).  All but 6 of the wins were with Elemental Mastery.

Notes:

• The deck is clearly better for me with more sundials and a 2nd FB.  I will forever have them in.
• The Aflatoxin was a toy for me, but not worth it.  Often I did not have the death quanta to fuel it.
• Only in 1 game would I have needed a miracle to stay alive while also having the light quanta to use it.  It also would have had to be in my hand at the time.  I do not miss taking this out of the deck.
• The Rainbow deck is about staying alive in the early game.  Once you turn the corner, you will win with EM.  For that reason I favor the extra SD defense, and extra FB.  This combo beats out SoGs easily, and the stats I have prove it (compare to my earlier SoG deck).
  
• 12 of my losses I attributed to not getting enough towers out quick enough.  Because of this I will be removing the Aflatoxin for another tower.
• Other options for that slot are the Arctic Squid, another SD, a Permafrost shield, Antimatter, Purify, SoG, or the Miracle.

I like how the deck is playing, and other than the 1 card modification I mentioned above, I am going to keep playing with this variant.  I know its not one of Ivalmian's official variants, but the attached deck is my variant of choice.  I'll call it the "Vreely Life Variant", due to having another FB, and more defense with the extra SDs.  I'll show it here without the Aflatoxin.

I did play 80 games with Jangoo's variant and either I am not as good of a player, or I am a bit more unlucky.  I pulled off a 45 percent win rate with it.

Deck shown below.  Its really 39+1, where the 1 can be your flavor of the day (permafrost, squid, miracle, SD, Antimatter, SoG, Purify, etc.).  Put it in place of one of the QTs shown below.

[Jangoo]

Awesome Vreely. Couple questions:

- 10 QTs and 2 SNs are your standard equipment and yielded you a fourth of your losses?
Sure you dont want to use the 11th tower as standard equip then?

- Why unupped sundials? If you even took out the Miracle you could go for upped ones and shoot freely with your time-supply!

[ivalmian]

I finally hit 100 games.  Here are the updated statistics. (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2872398504)

I managed a 0.48 win rate, which is pretty good since my 2 most frequent opponents were Gravitron and Rainbow (23 games against these two).  All but 6 of the wins were with Elemental Mastery.

Notes:

• The deck is clearly better for me with more sundials and a 2nd FB.  I will forever have them in.
• The Aflatoxin was a toy for me, but not worth it.  Often I did not have the death quanta to fuel it.
• Only in 1 game would I have needed a miracle to stay alive while also having the light quanta to use it.  It also would have had to be in my hand at the time.  I do not miss taking this out of the deck.
• The Rainbow deck is about staying alive in the early game.  Once you turn the corner, you will win with EM.  For that reason I favor the extra SD defense, and extra FB.  This combo beats out SoGs easily, and the stats I have prove it (compare to my earlier SoG deck).
  
• 12 of my losses I attributed to not getting enough towers out quick enough.  Because of this I will be removing the Aflatoxin for another tower.
• Other options for that slot are the Arctic Squid, another SD, a Permafrost shield, Antimatter, Purify, SoG, or the Miracle.

I like how the deck is playing, and other than the 1 card modification I mentioned above, I am going to keep playing with this variant.  I know its not one of Ivalmian's official variants, but the attached deck is my variant of choice.  I'll call it the "Vreely Life Variant", due to having another FB, and more defense with the extra SDs.  I'll show it here without the Aflatoxin.

I did play 80 games with Jangoo's variant and either I am not as good of a player, or I am a bit more unlucky.  I pulled off a 45 percent win rate with it.

Deck shown below.  Its really 39+1, where the 1 can be your flavor of the day (permafrost, squid, miracle, SD, Antimatter, SoG, Purify, etc.).  Put it in place of one of the QTs shown below.

hm.. it seems you're a little quanta starved since you took out both sns and added only 1 qt..

[Vreely]

- 10 QTs and 2 SNs are your standard equipment and yielded you a fourth of your losses?
Sure you dont want to use the 11th tower as standard equip then?

- Why unupped sundials? If you even took out the Miracle you could go for upped ones and shoot freely with your time-supply!

To your first point.  You're right.   Only reason I waited is so I could get 100 games of pure statistics without the extra QT.   Its not as bad as it looks because the SDs are non-cards as they replace themselves mostly.  So think 10 QTs and 2 SNs for a 36 card deck.   Having said that, its clearly the better play to use the 11th QT, and I am carrying forward stats with this setup after 100 games.

On the SDs.   Are you finding yourself able to draw (thereby replacing the card)?   un-upped it is 1 time + 1 light to replace itself and stall for a turn.  With a time mark, that seems easier to me than waiting for 2 light.  As it is, I have to wait for the 1 light sometimes.    To be fair, I have not tried it.    Does it work better for you upped?   Perhaps I will experiment.

Edit:  After a handful of games (12) with upped SDs, you're right.   Especially without the need to save for Miracle, they are performing better.  It allows me more hourglass card draws early, and even if I do not have 2 light to replace it, it means another card draw with the time I would have used to put it out.  I like it.  Thank you for the suggestion through a question

[Jangoo]

On the SDs.   Are you finding yourself able to draw (thereby replacing the card)?   un-upped it is 1 time + 1 light to replace itself and stall for a turn.  With a time mark, that seems easier to me than waiting for 2 light.  As it is, I have to wait for the 1 light sometimes.    To be fair, I have not tried it.    Does it work better for you upped?   Perhaps I will experiment.

Well yes, getting a measly two light quanta really isnt a big deal.
It's actually the lowest quanta demand you will ever have with this deck, having to pay at least 3 quants for anything else in the deck (except steal).
With the Miracle out of the equation you wont even have to worry about cutting you short on anything when using them up.
Also, if you have to play a SD that early that you dont even have those 2 light quants it is probably going to be a crappy discarding action anyways, hence wasting the card.

On the other hand, even with time mark, time is under a lot of pressure here.
I will always find myself having to decide whether to play the second hourglass or rather draw just one card by turn 6-8 for example.
I would hate to be forced to spend that one time quant on a sundial when e.g. rewinding a 10/6 fireeater would also be an option. ;-)

[elfreth]

More stats w/ the "purified" Jangoo variant:

destiny         3   0 (em)
hermes         1   1 (em)(wow, dead in 4 turns)
divine glory   0   3 (almost....sigh)
miracle         2   0
rainbow         1   2 (20 effing cards w/o an hourglass/oty/phase shield)(em)
fire queen      2   0  (no qt in draw)
paradox         2   1 (em&3cards)(loss=never saw a QT in 5 turns)
scorpio         2   0
chaos lord      1   1 (crazy game, had to force him to deck-out)
incarnate      1   0 (em)
gemini         2   1 (no defense drawn)
obliterator      0   1 (pulverizer on turn one, never got to put down any quanta)
dark matter      0   1 (one QT for first 6 turns)
seism         2   0 (wow, thought he was impossible)   
ferox         0   1 (*&%@, only saw one wall in 30 cards-very close)
incarnate      1   0

The correction did come, no longer at 80%

However, I'm still pleased w/ the way things are going, sitting at 62.5%

Could've easily gone differently in a few very close games.

Had one of the greatest draws I've ever seen vs Seism in my 2nd win....he never had a chance.  Those are fun sometimes, though the hard fought challenges are fun too.  It's the 4-turn losses never getting to see a qt that's frustrating

[ghy]

Ivalmian's deck with 3 changes


Stats


Resum
- Quantum Tower 10 is too little. I did 42 games with 0 or 1 pillars at the beginning.
- 42% of won (that's 10% better than my first 100 games)
- I'm still lucky earnings card because I'm almost at 43%.