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I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1115606#msg1115606
« on: December 16, 2013, 04:47:13 pm »
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I just love entropy. I put some cards togheter and it seems to work.

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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1115612#msg1115612
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 05:07:35 pm »
If you don't get lucky enough to get some damage with shards of serendipty, then you won't have enough damage to finish the opponent off. (Just my oppinion) Also, you probably don't need all that pillars pends, three pillars+three pends should be enough in most cases. You could add a Frog, and probably a phase recluse, death recluse or Abyss Crawler to get some reliable damage. And since you don't use earth jet, you may want one or two grabroids as well. (And you can probably remove that forever alone quantum tower as well.)
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1115617#msg1115617
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 05:24:47 pm »
If you don't get lucky enough to get some damage with shards of serendipty, then you won't have enough damage to finish the opponent off. (Just my oppinion) Also, you probably don't need all that pillars pends, three pillars+three pends should be enough in most cases. You could add a Frog, and probably a phase recluse, death recluse or Abyss Crawler to get some reliable damage. And since you don't use earth jet, you may want one or two grabroids as well. (And you can probably remove that forever alone quantum tower as well.)
But I like my QT :(
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120335#msg1120335
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 02:41:33 am »
Well I just rated it 4 stars. I like it, been waiting to do pretty much the exact same thing. But i suggest trading out the blessing for a earth pend and the other quanta generating cards to earth pends. Then having like 4 elite graboids. XD. After dueling edc a bit when he kept using mono earth I tend to like it more.
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120377#msg1120377
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 09:32:00 am »
the deck in the OP uses 18 spells :O

as for more damage, how about mutation?
sure, it may still have low damage,
but the stat bonuses give you on average quite a punch.
not to mention that the skill could give more damage via poison, grow, ablaze, lycantrophe, mitosis, or deja vu.
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120386#msg1120386
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 11:42:27 am »
the deck in the OP uses 18 spells :O

as for more damage, how about mutation?
sure, it may still have low damage,
but the stat bonuses give you on average quite a punch.
not to mention that the skill could give more damage via poison, grow, ablaze, lycantrophe, mitosis, or deja vu.
You have averages for this? Can you explain more? Ive never heard of anyone putting in improved mutate for added damage unless it was used on the weakest creatures in the game.
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120392#msg1120392
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2014, 12:20:13 pm »
You have averages for this? Can you explain more? Ive never heard of anyone putting in improved mutate for added damage unless it was used on the weakest creatures in the game.
I have no stats or calculations (so far),
but I can tell that you do have a good target: singularity.
of course, that requires 2 SN played in a single turn (but once you got mutation and you don't need the quanta you can save up),
but you may also get weak creatures from SoSe regularly.

edit:
the average of every possible creature's base attack is 327/89 =3.67
if we assume the mutant has the same chance for every creature, and the average stat bonus is 2.5,
we get an average damage of 6.17.
and we may just get an additional skill.
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120446#msg1120446
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2014, 07:48:43 pm »
Ok, and now it could potentially speed up the deck yes, but if you dont get 2 sn fast+2 entropy quanta then your going ot be slowed down a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2014, 08:01:07 pm »
Ok, and now it could potentially speed up the deck yes, but if you dont get 2 sn fast+2 entropy quanta then your going ot be slowed down a lot.
mutation costs 3 :entropy...
but you don't need to draw it fast, only if you draw mutation early, in order to be able to use it early.
in a different deck with 6 SN and 6 SoSe, it works wonderfully; I'm not sure just how well it will work in this.
It also increases deck size.
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120457#msg1120457
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 09:14:32 pm »
Yeah, if were going to increase deck size i personally just splash in bravery. But if were gonna do all this, it might be hard to play the cards+abilities from sose. I think we should get rid of another 1 so we have 4 sose, max.
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120463#msg1120463
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 10:50:20 pm »
How about 2-3 sundials? Its obvious that damage comes from soser, soooo until enough damage is gathered (faster) perhaps some sundials would be useful :D
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Re: I don't have a name for this https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52891.msg1120494#msg1120494
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 03:41:16 am »
well, sose is a spell, an instant so that wouldnt really matter. But precogs could work. The only thing sundials would help with is quanta generation.
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