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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg149192#msg149192
« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2010, 10:49:38 pm »
I was just thinking that some of those difficults should be impossibles as I ran a similar deck before and never have I been able to out stall rainbow's 120 card deck (assuming I even survive that long). It makes more sense that it was before the sundial nerf. However, even back then when there wasn't that many false gods, this deck can't have been that stable. 9/10 times a difficult FG would beat this deck and it's much better to just quit against those FGs to maximise farming potential. Now with the arrival of Eternal Phoenix and worst of all Dark Matter, there isn't a deck that can hold its own against all FGs. To beat DM you need mono/duo and to beat Decay you need mass quanta generation which is only possible with rainbow. I struggle to find a deck that has decent chance (approx 75%) of win rate against over half of the FGs...

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg151915#msg151915
« Reply #121 on: September 04, 2010, 11:27:27 am »
75% win rate whit all FG???
if you find one please post it  ;D

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg152705#msg152705
« Reply #122 on: September 05, 2010, 06:16:22 pm »
Hi all, i'm new here, and have read the guide of Scaredgirl, i farmed electrum and bought the new version of this deck, i've upgraded the hourglasses and 1 Otyugh, but i'm loosing too much for the false gods, only got 3 winnings, 2 against Ferox and 1 against Decay, but i'm getting so much owned by the other gods that must have something wrong.

I usually keep the only Steal to steal the most annoying thing on the field (Weapons, shields or any permanent).
I use Eternity to keep endless card draw, and always focus on fast drawing with the hourglasses, but i really miss cards that heal poison or can save my Quantums from earthquakes and everything...
The queen and the elf always get immortality so i can spam creatures, and when i can, i keep otyugh alive killing creatures to make new skeletons.

Is there any mistake? Or any new trick that i'm missing? And in this guide is missing some new false gods i think... sorry if i didn't read any notification here but i'm lost  :)).

(i'm using this deck just to farm cards on gods, when i get enough points and electrum i'll make one of my own!)

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg152715#msg152715
« Reply #123 on: September 05, 2010, 06:29:39 pm »
Hi all, i'm new here, and have read the guide of Scaredgirl, i farmed electrum and bought the new version of this deck, i've upgraded the hourglasses and 1 Otyugh, but i'm loosing too much for the false gods, only got 3 winnings, 2 against Ferox and 1 against Decay, but i'm getting so much owned by the other gods that must have something wrong.

I usually keep the only Steal to steal the most annoying thing on the field (Weapons, shields or any permanent).
I use Eternity to keep endless card draw, and always focus on fast drawing with the hourglasses, but i really miss cards that heal poison or can save my Quantums from earthquakes and everything...
The queen and the elf always get immortality so i can spam creatures, and when i can, i keep otyugh alive killing creatures to make new skeletons.

Is there any mistake? Or any new trick that i'm missing? And in this guide is missing some new false gods i think... sorry if i didn't read any notification here but i'm lost  :)).

(i'm using this deck just to farm cards on gods, when i get enough points and electrum i'll make one of my own!)
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WARNING!!!
Don't let the incorrect time stamp fool you, I made this deck and started this thread a long time ago. It was made before the Sundial nerf, and all the other recent changes to the game.

You could say this is the deck that "started it all" which gives it nice historic value but it also means that it's outdated and not designed to be used in Elements v1.15+.

You can still use it and get acceptable results but If you want to play a non-upgraded False God killer deck with better results, I suggest you try to the most recent version I made here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1615.0.html

If you don't have Eternity or like bigger decks, and really want to use this old one, that's fine too. In that case I recommend you take an extra Hourglass (because of the Sundial nerf).
She says it on the original topic, this deck doesn't work anymore.

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg152855#msg152855
« Reply #124 on: September 05, 2010, 11:18:29 pm »
Yes, but i'm using the other deck... that version with 40 cards... is that still bad?  :(

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg153001#msg153001
« Reply #125 on: September 06, 2010, 03:40:34 am »
She says it on the original topic, this deck doesn't work anymore.
SG also says, in the almost-unupped timebow thread, to look at this thread for advice on specific FGs xD

@Eternalfire - judging from your post, you're losing against FGs that are some of the harder ones for your deck anyway (Scorpio, Seism). Since it's mostly unupped you're going to lose against many of the FGs unless they get a terrible draw.

Some of the FGs you should be able to deal with are: Chaos Lord, Destiny, Elidnis, Ferox, Fire Queen, Gemini, Incarnate, Miracle, Neptune, Paradox (might be missing some)

Strategy-wise, I think your main problem is that you're quinting the FFQ. I usually quint the oty and the druid, since oty+boneyard also lets you spam mutants, and you get reliable CC as well.

I almost never quint FFQ unless there's a really really good reason to (e.g. I'm facing gemini and don't want to be mutant-TU spammed, so I kill him with Oty+Skeletons+Fireflies)

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg154093#msg154093
« Reply #126 on: September 07, 2010, 09:12:42 pm »
She says it on the original topic, this deck doesn't work anymore.
SG also says, in the almost-unupped timebow thread, to look at this thread for advice on specific FGs xD

@Eternalfire - judging from your post, you're losing against FGs that are some of the harder ones for your deck anyway (Scorpio, Seism). Since it's mostly unupped you're going to lose against many of the FGs unless they get a terrible draw.

Some of the FGs you should be able to deal with are: Chaos Lord, Destiny, Elidnis, Ferox, Fire Queen, Gemini, Incarnate, Miracle, Neptune, Paradox (might be missing some)

Strategy-wise, I think your main problem is that you're quinting the FFQ. I usually quint the oty and the druid, since oty+boneyard also lets you spam mutants, and you get reliable CC as well.

I almost never quint FFQ unless there's a really really good reason to (e.g. I'm facing gemini and don't want to be mutant-TU spammed, so I kill him with Oty+Skeletons+Fireflies)
1. Didn't realise she reposted a link

2. His low win rate suggested he was using old deck.

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg154104#msg154104
« Reply #127 on: September 07, 2010, 09:39:43 pm »
Just thanks you both who tried to help, i think i'm getting on the right way now... just need to save some electrum from the upg cards and i can fight a lot more and get more winnings to upg my cards, cya.

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg166656#msg166656
« Reply #128 on: September 28, 2010, 08:20:42 pm »
OK, it looks like these guide is outdated because the false gods I get have other names.

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg167151#msg167151
« Reply #129 on: September 29, 2010, 06:23:53 am »
Can't you people stop posting here seriously? This thread is old and some is the decks. (The one here and the unupped one)

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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg167206#msg167206
« Reply #130 on: September 29, 2010, 10:25:09 am »
I too stumbled upon several outdated decks in the guides, and I almost bought one. While that is no drama (every rainbow deck has some base cards) I think this can easily be prevented. Take a few posts and make them a sticky or mark them. Have an admin. of sorts update the first post. If that cannot be done, archive it. A guide is a guide. You cannot expect me to read 15 pages of replies with comments that might invalidate the original contents!

But anyway a situation is created in which people ask ''stupid questions'' in the eyes of the people that did read the entire forum. :P
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Re: How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=182.msg167813#msg167813
« Reply #131 on: September 30, 2010, 10:59:48 am »
I too stumbled upon several outdated decks in the guides, and I almost bought one. While that is no drama (every rainbow deck has some base cards) I think this can easily be prevented. Take a few posts and make them a sticky or mark them. Have an admin. of sorts update the first post. If that cannot be done, archive it. A guide is a guide. You cannot expect me to read 15 pages of replies with comments that might invalidate the original contents!

But anyway a situation is created in which people ask ''stupid questions'' in the eyes of the people that did read the entire forum. :P
I fell into this trap twice. I had a scarab+fractal deck, used to farm AI3 for weeks, managed to get coins for 7 upgrades. Then i came to the forum, seen the mono aether deck listed as badass against HB, i built it, got pwned badly, but tweaked a bit and in 2 weeks i upped 19 cards. Then i said its time for FGs, found the 40 card SG Rainbow, started with 12 upgraded cards, and in less than a week, now i have 35 upped cards.

Sure these decks are not as good as they were, but i could still profit from them, and now i have the funds to build a real anti-FG deck.

However, you are right, some of the topics, especially in the newbie section should be ereased or modified to prevent ppl cursing a lot and getting disappointed fast.

 

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