How to beat ALL the False Gods using the ULTIMATE False God killing deck

[thomas5436]

Where can I get an owls eye?
I chose a vampire stiletto cuz that was my mark (which I regret cuz I got 2 more right after)

You can win Eagle Eye (the upgraded Owl Eye) from Fire Queen, or you can win an Owl Eye from the FFQ deck in AI3, thought that seems to happen less. I actually got two Eagle Eyes from Fire Queen in the same set of spins. o-o

So should I just use that deck without eagle eye/owl eye until I win it?

[Uncle Jellyfish]

Just use the weapon you have. I used an Electrolizer, since that was all I had, and then I switched it with a Discord when I won one from Chaos Lord (it dealt more damage, and didn't eat up my precious Aether Quanta, not to mention that it messed with the Quanta of my opponent XD).

[thomas5436]

k, thanks, now I just gotta buy all the cards lol

[Evil Hamster]

k, thanks, now I just gotta buy all the cards lol

You can use this awesome spreadsheet to track your collection:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=258.0 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=258.0)

/shameless plug

 

[Uzra]

Sticky this topic.

[brain9h]

After I upgraded my all my deck, and specially the supernovas, I rarely lose to Scorpio.

All I do them is delay the game as aggressively as possible until I draw either miracle or purify. Supernovas were critical for me, now I always have quanta for improved miracle went I need it. Before supernovas ( and before upgrading miracle ), it was quite rare for me to use the card when actually needed. Lost of time I died with miracle in and and only short of 1 or 2 quanta. Now with supernovas I can use miracle as well as eat/lobotomize/snipe venom creatures and steal the arsenic as early as possible.

[Parabol]

Dealing with Morte poisoning your creatures - or indeed any situation where a creature has an undesirable debuff - always remember you can use eternity to return them to your hand unharmed! That's saved my Mind Flayer more than once.  If your creature's going to die anyway, Fallen Elf's mutate can salvage something from it (at least 5 damage, possibly a growth ability that would save you or lycanthrope).

I'd also like to mention that if you fluke a creature with steal it's game over for the god no matter what ^_^.

Not sure what all this about upgrades is, my take on it works fine without it.  If you don't understand how to play the deck against a certain god (say, incarnate), alter the deck so it emphasises the tactics you DO understand.  It's all very well having the cards, but if you play them in the wrong turn you can easily drop a 50%+ winning record to a 20% or less.

Some mistakes I've made:
Making moves/playing cards before using all my haste.
Forgetting to play sundials/phase shields when the previous ones ran out.
Treating Bone Walls as invulnerable.
Playing unupgraded Otyughs early against Graviton (use the same tactics as you do against Incarnate and he's fine.  Chill out behind a flurry of sundials and phase shields, then rain of fire his ass (to cut Elite Otyughs down to edible portions), and get munching.  The best part is, there's few things he can play once you have /7 Otyugh.  He should have at least 4 creatures down by the time you get rain of fire, so...yeah.  Game over.  Gravity pull can defeat important creatures, but if you've waited for rain of fire you should be in a position to play at least 3 of ffq, otyugh, elf, mind flayer, etc, at once.  Not even taking into account the counter-gravity pull powers of sundials and eternity.)

Also, I agree with icewolf, elite Otyughs for the win - but so far I've merely won all the upgraded cards for this deck .  No cash required.

[laf]

Im using a streamlined (IMO) version of scaredgirls rainbow deck with 40 cards, the mark is time. I started playing elements some days ago, so Im kinda new and still missing upgrades I want. Which forces me to choose carefully my upgrades. Comparing the two different forms of the cards I noticed that there are several cards which I dont think are worth upgrading, but scaredgirl is using them surprisingly. The ones are:

Fallen Elf:
Atm Im running a fallen elf in my god farm deck and it seems that Im loosing the option to turn something into a abomination (this 5/5 guy) or kill it. The druid transform anything into mutants, at least thats what I think its doing. Most of the time my elf is transforming some big ass critters into more manageable 5/5 guys and pretty seldom Im using the elf to give me some freaky mutants with random superpowers (and I really dont want them on the other side of the table). The +0/+1 upgrade seems worthless to me.
So is it really worth upgrading the elf?

Boneyard:
Why should I upgrade the boneyard? Im winning 90% of the time with fireflies and the yard gives me fodder for the elf or for the otyughs (what a name).  So I would need 1 more mana for 2/1 critters in a deck which uses the yard mainly for utility and not as damage source.

Mind Flayer:
1 more mana for +1/+2. The flayer is amazing if I can put it out 1st or 2nd turn. Does the better survivability pays for the slower cast? In PvP probably, but against the NPC opponents I dont think so.

Nova:
2 more mana for a +12 mana gain. Im using nova to speed the deck up, especially at the start the card is pretty good, later its fire and forget. 2 mana, not even the ones of my mark, look awful slow to me. Maybe against the landdestructer god its worth having it in the deck?


Following changes I made:
- I dropped Eagles Eye for Eternity.
Im having trouble dealing with big critters. Eye is off-colored, slow and mostly needs a working otyugh on the table. Eternity is my mark, deals with 18/18 dragons, stalls opponent and prevents deckdeath. Its slow, maybe even slower as the eye, though. Opposing eagly eyes are a nightmare, so probably for pvp the eye is superior.

- I dropped plate/heavy armor
It was one of the cards sitting often in my hand. My play experience showed me, that the deck simply didnt have enough critters to waste a slot for some cards which isnt doing anything on its own.

- I dropped the phase shields
I noticed several problems. First the mana cost is high, even the upgraded version is 5 offcolored mana. Then, if I want to stall the game, which is basically very very early, I definitely want sundials and no phase shields. The phase shield is using the same slot as the bone wall. In most cases I win, playing a phase shield doesnt do much difference, even as finisher I rarely used them.
Loosing them definitly put more pressure on my bone wall, which forces me to play the wall very carefully.

- I dropped the lava golem
4R is a lot for a critter which doesnt do much beside damage and this in a control deck which often needs 5R for firestorm. Typing this I notice that I tested it with the unupgraded rain of fires, but I doubt thats its such a big difference.

- Elite Graboid
Didnt notice this guy until now oO. Whats it good for?

- No Blessing
I managed to sell the one I won. ><

Thanks for any replies and thanks for scaredgirl for the amazing deck which is a lot more fun to play than mono blue (yawn).

[Avi]

Just had a bout with Gravitron using a modified version of the upgradeless deck. Mind Flayer works WONDERS against him, as most of his mobs start with 0 offensive power, and are only powered up by their abilities. Backed up with Anubis, it is a sure victory.

[jmizzle7]

I just noticed that you replied to my post, Scaredgirl. About Enchant Artifact, the only real god it is absolutely wonderful against is Seism. Against every other god, just play a bone wall and it will target that every single time before your other permanents, with the one exception being *Graveyard. Since it is practically a dead card against almost all gods, I leave it out.

*Graveyard has the same casting cost as Bone Wall and has equal priority (meaning it will sometimes be targeted first), which is why I prefer not to run this card atm.

[wwmidia]

I prefer not to use Enchant Artifact, for the reason that you can use the AI's permanent removal strategy against itself. If you observe the decision-making process the AI uses to target your permanents, you will notice that it isn't random. I'll give you a hint: check the casting costs.

Very inspiring, sounds like a new strategy against permanent destroying gods: unupgraded boneyard (3), upgraded Feral Bonds (4) and upgraded bone wall (5), therefore god shall always target bone wall.

It's just conception, I need to try it out.

[jmizzle7]

I prefer not to use Enchant Artifact, for the reason that you can use the AI's permanent removal strategy against itself. If you observe the decision-making process the AI uses to target your permanents, you will notice that it isn't random. I'll give you a hint: check the casting costs.

Very inspiring, sounds like a new strategy against permanent destroying gods: unupgraded boneyard (3), upgraded Feral Bonds (4) and upgraded bone wall (5), therefore god shall always target bone wall.

It's just conception, I need to try it out.

No need to try it out, that's how it works, and why I wait to play my perms until after bone wall is down.