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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170771#msg170771
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 10:36:32 pm »
Dude, how is having an Hourglass a waste of deck space or quanta?
Double draw = Double pillar Draws = Double quanta gained = Enough quanta to support eternity AND the HG.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170799#msg170799
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 11:10:14 pm »
OMFG
You have 4 time towers, what do you mean you won't have enough quanta? Let me show you some math:
Eternity costs 3 quanta
Hourglass costs 1 quanta
3+1=4
Also, you get enough quanta to play BOTH with your Snovas. PUT IN AN HOURGLASS!!!


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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170809#msg170809
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 11:15:23 pm »
Dude, how is having an Hourglass a waste of deck space or quanta?
Double draw = Double pillar Draws = Double quanta gained = Enough quanta to support eternity AND the HG.
There would not be double quanta gained. That wouldn't make much sense. Also, using eternity and the hourglass at the same time results in 4 wasted time quanta.

OMFG
You have 4 time towers, what do you mean you won't have enough quanta? Let me show you some math:
Eternity costs 3 quanta
Hourglass costs 1 quanta
3+1=4
Also, you get enough quanta to play BOTH with your Snovas. PUT IN AN HOURGLASS!!!
Don't freak out and OMFG. The extra time tower is just in case the last time tower is in the bottom of the deck. Also keep in mind that this is a 32 card deck.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170829#msg170829
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 11:36:42 pm »
How does it not make sense? 0.o
When you play an hourglass, you get 2 draws per turn.
With 2 draws per turn, you will draw about twice as many pillars as you would have if you only had the one draw, at least in the beginning of the game when it's more important. You will also draw your novas twice as fast.
If you have twice as many pillars as someone else, and draw other means of gaining quanta twice as fast, you will gain about twice as much quanta.
Also, it won't be a waste of deck space, because having double draw effectively halves the size of your deck.
I don't see what the problem with putting in an hourglass or 2 would be. It would get you everything you need much quicker.
And also, it's not wasted quanta if it's doing something. Wasted quanta is having tons of quanta in your pool and not doing anything with it.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170835#msg170835
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 11:40:11 pm »
How does it not make sense? 0.o
When you play an hourglass, you get 2 draws per turn.
With 2 draws per turn, you will draw about twice as many pillars as you would have if you only had the one draw, at least in the beginning of the game when it's more important. You will also draw your novas twice as fast.
If you have twice as many pillars as someone else, and draw other means of gaining quanta twice as fast, you will gain about twice as much quanta.
Also, it won't be a waste of deck space, because having double draw effectively halves the size of your deck.
I don't see what the problem with putting in an hourglass or 2 would be. It would get you everything you need much quicker.
And also, it's not wasted quanta if it's doing something. Wasted quanta is having tons of quanta in your pool and not doing anything with it.
Okay I understand the drawing part. Also, I misunderstood. I thought you meant, in the previous post, that you would use the electrum hourglass and eternity on the same turn.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170845#msg170845
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2010, 11:51:43 pm »
Well you could.
It's up to the player to decide when the best time to use things are.
Probably you would keep drawing until you are stable, and then just let the Eternity use the Quanta when you have everything you need to win.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170856#msg170856
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 12:00:17 am »
Well you could.
It's up to the player to decide when the best time to use things are.
Probably you would keep drawing until you are stable, and then just let the Eternity use the Quanta when you have everything you need to win.
Alright.  8)

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170957#msg170957
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 01:58:18 am »
Dude, how is having an Hourglass a waste of deck space or quanta?
Double draw = Double pillar Draws = Double quanta gained = Enough quanta to support eternity AND the HG.
There would not be double quanta gained. That wouldn't make much sense. Also, using eternity and the hourglass at the same time results in 4 wasted time quanta.

OMFG
You have 4 time towers, what do you mean you won't have enough quanta? Let me show you some math:
Eternity costs 3 quanta
Hourglass costs 1 quanta
3+1=4
Also, you get enough quanta to play BOTH with your Snovas. PUT IN AN HOURGLASS!!!
Don't freak out and OMFG. The extra time tower is just in case the last time tower is in the bottom of the deck. Also keep in mind that this is a 32 card deck.
But what if you have eternity at the bottom of your deck? Or gravity shield? You should still put an hourglass in there for drawing.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170968#msg170968
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 02:20:12 am »
Lookin' pretty good, maybe, just maybe, change a tower or two for a pendulum?


2. An hourglass would be useless in my deck because the amount of time quanta produced is only enough the feed the eternity. A hourglass would be both a waste of deck space and quanta.
4 Time Towers produces 4. Eternity eats 6. I don't really see the problem. And SUpernovas can cover in the early game.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170973#msg170973
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 02:24:32 am »
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Lookin' pretty good, maybe, just maybe, change a tower or two for a pendulum?
No, you wouldn't need a pendulum, and all the quanta from the pillars is necessary for maximum efficiency with this deck.

Dan43

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg170977#msg170977
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 02:27:03 am »
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Lookin' pretty good, maybe, just maybe, change a tower or two for a pendulum?
No, you wouldn't need a pendulum, and all the quanta from the pillars is necessary for maximum efficiency with this deck.
Agreed. A pendulum would just produce unneeded entropy quanta.

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Re: Heavy Otyugh: A False God Deck 1.01 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13517.msg171456#msg171456
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 10:04:35 pm »
Deck updated!  :D

 

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