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Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352779#msg352779
« on: June 17, 2011, 05:00:26 pm »
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What's new:
I've put much more survival and a chimera. If there were no sundials/phase shields chaining failures you need to use hourglass for 3-4 times to be sure you are protected until deck-out.

How to win:
Play quantum towers and supernovas. Chain sundials and phase shields, use hourglasses until you have 4 or more dragons (their summary damage must be more then half of an enemies max hp), chimera (optionaly useful if enemy has a shield), sky blitz and quanta for all of this. Play all the dragons, sky blitz and chimera. Win.
Sometimes you need to discard smth. You can play sundials anytime, so you'd better waste a hourglass (one hourglass is enough), then comes a dragon with the smallest attack (Basalt, Ivory,..), but remember you need at least four of them. Chimera can be discarded if only enemy can't play strong damage reduction shields (for example, mono  :fire or mono  :time opponents). Also phase shield can be discarded if you are sure you wouldn't die.

This deck is weak against:
  • quanta controls (1 Sanctuary isn't enough to be sure you can avoid this problem)
  • many permanent controls
  • momentums
  • oneshot strats based on spells
  • poisonous decks (physalia, deadly poison, neurotoxin)
  • max hp boost: shards of divinity or stone skin. Summary damage of all dragons under sky blitz is 170.
  • nightmare (still just one sanctuary)
Possible changes:
-1 Sanctuary +1 SoG (beware of sog consuming aether quanta)
-1 Sanctuary +1 Purify
+1 Sky Blitz
-1 Obsidian dragon +1 Liquid Shadow (for more elemental masteries, use on chimera)
-1 Obsidian dragon +2 cloaks
+1 Electrum Hourglass (just to be sure you'll have it early, you don't really need so many of them)

Remember:
Don't put a lobotomizer into this deck. It wastes an essential  :aether.
Don't play a dragons combo when a sundial is on the board. You'll Waste Sky Blitz.
Don't play a Chimera before Sky Blitz. It's not airbourne.
Don't play sanctuary if you have no extra  :light for sundial.

Sorry for possible grammar mistakes as I'm Russian.

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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352787#msg352787
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 05:24:01 pm »
Yeah this is a lot like the deck UW used early in war. We called it DOTK. It worked well until we got a really bad matchup.

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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352794#msg352794
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 05:39:19 pm »
I'd like to see nightmare added to the list of weaknesses. Impeding your draws really hurts, even more so with ghosts.
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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352833#msg352833
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 06:50:47 pm »
I'd like to see nightmare added to the list of weaknesses. Impeding your draws really hurts, even more so with ghosts.
usually your hand is filled with the combo or sundials and phase shields, just take the damage since it probably wont be enough to kill.

My only addition would be 2-3 EA's late game when people have the possibility of massive damage, most people carry 1-2 explosions. On your phase shield would kill you. they usually are not a problem and can be discarded if you think they wont be needed but i have found the winrate improves.

However you have 7 dragons if i counted right. since you need all 5-6 SN to play really any dragons you should have drawn through most of your deck. - basalt and -Amethyst dragon.   since basalt would conflict with EA if you put it in and Amethyst because SN doesn't boost your entropy quanta.

another variation you might want to look into is http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22845.msg317493#msg317493
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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352844#msg352844
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 07:27:38 pm »
I have 5 QT's as an alternative quanta source - you can rely on it if you didn't draw the last SN and it provides some entropy quanta too, so it's enough for amethyst dragon.
Also, when you remove two dragons you become more vulnerable to hp boosts.
About EA - I just rely opponent doesn't have enough PC early  ;D Average rush-lover needs about 3-4 attacks (3-4 explosions in 10-15 turns) or more turns of preparation then I need.

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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352849#msg352849
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 07:49:01 pm »
So. I took the liberty of testing this against my ghosts on the trainer. Ghosts went 2/3 against it. Nightmare really does hurt, at least if two or more hit. Just one isn't much of a bother, but the clogged draws hurt and discarding the ghosts just makes it easier to kill this deck.
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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352861#msg352861
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 08:18:40 pm »
So. I took the liberty of testing this against my ghosts on the trainer. Ghosts went 2/3 against it. Nightmare really does hurt, at least if two or more hit. Just one isn't much of a bother, but the clogged draws hurt and discarding the ghosts just makes it easier to kill this deck.
i guess 3 is a bigger sample size than the 1 i played :P. Ill take your word for it
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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352885#msg352885
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 08:53:26 pm »
One fun ideas is using Cloaks instead of EA, obviously, obsidian dragon.

I also use Discord instead of a amethyst dragon, because it largely slows the opponent, while damaging them as well.

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Re: Safe Draw Dragon Rainbow [PvP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27687.msg352886#msg352886
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 08:55:05 pm »
Our little argument aside, the deck is fine. Though i don't much like the entropy dragon seeing as you have to power it off the mark for the most part. You could switch it out for an unupped light dragon.
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