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GAEM: Giant Amphibi'EM v2.0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg276846#msg276846
« on: February 23, 2011, 04:19:44 am »
So why haven't I tried a :life mark PSN EM deck yet?  Here is yet another deck in my EM series.  Enjoy.

All comments and suggestions welcome.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg276978#msg276978
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 12:10:20 pm »
if you dont have supernovas then you would have to go with a regular life deck with maybe regular novas and control splashed in. so yeah you have to up supernovas first.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg276984#msg276984
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 12:34:38 pm »
Already met it in T50 twice before you posted this (both you, Jmdt, and Luis-something).
It was quite fierce, but could beat it with ease with your own Healbow T50 version.

The heals certainly make it hard to beat, and those come out consistently. I don't think the Chaos Powers are the best choice without an Entropy mark however.

My suggestion would be:
- 3 Chaos Power
+ 2 Explosion (for both AI3 and T50 this seems vital to me, those shields....)
+ ehm.... wings/fog/charger/wyrm/precog?

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277010#msg277010
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 01:55:42 pm »
Already met it in T50 twice before you posted this (both you, Jmdt, and Luis-something).
It was quite fierce, but could beat it with ease with your own Healbow T50 version.

The heals certainly make it hard to beat, and those come out consistently. I don't think the Chaos Powers are the best choice without an Entropy mark however.

My suggestion would be:
- 3 Chaos Power
+ 2 Explosion (for both AI3 and T50 this seems vital to me, those shields....)
+ ehm.... wings/fog/charger/wyrm/precog?
Chaos Powers are used in a lot of PSN decks because of the entropy quanta they can get with pendulums. You only need a small amount to set the deck off.
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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277024#msg277024
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 02:19:39 pm »
Agreed, but I still think explosion would be a key card for both AI3 and T50.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277038#msg277038
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 03:06:05 pm »
Well, if the 4 Heals are still causing issues then I suppose it would be fine to do -1 Improved Heal, -1 Chaos Power, +2 Explosion.  But I can't say how beneficial that will be to the deck's speed/EMing ability.
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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277057#msg277057
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 03:31:18 pm »
Will 2 daggers, I'm debating on that 4th heal.  I always seem to have a heal when I don't need one, but has a small sample still.  I may try 5 frogs and 3 heals just to see what happens.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277195#msg277195
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 07:18:47 pm »
I tested 50 games posted for the purposes of my efficiency study and it looks pretty great early on.  Its definitely towards the top tier in efficiency.

-Cocky About them EMs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21620.msg295673#msg295673): TSE: 994.507/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1368, Electrum Change: +1833, Total Time: 75.03 mins, Deck by - jmdt
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Games50
Win4794%
EM3468%
Avg. TTW7.8936
Avg. Time90.04 secs
Total Time1.2506 hrs
Total Score1368
IG Score Eff1093.914/hr
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50 games is a little early to tell for sure, but I'll keep you updated as I work my way through more games with all the decks.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277230#msg277230
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 08:14:54 pm »
I tested 50 games posted for the purposes of my efficiency study and it looks pretty great early on.  Its definitely towards the top tier in efficiency.

-Cocky About them EMs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21620.msg295673#msg295673): TSE: 994.507/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1368, Electrum Change: +1833, Total Time: 75.03 mins, Deck by - jmdt
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Very nice.  Did it seem like too many heals, or about the right balance.  It has a good EM rate, but I'd like it to be a bit faster.  Can't have everything, lol.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277268#msg277268
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 09:25:46 pm »
I tested 50 games posted for the purposes of my efficiency study and it looks pretty great early on.  Its definitely towards the top tier in efficiency.

-Cocky About them EMs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21620.msg295673#msg295673): TSE: 994.507/hr, Games: 50, Score Change: +1368, Electrum Change: +1833, Total Time: 75.03 mins, Deck by - jmdt
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Very nice.  Did it seem like too many heals, or about the right balance.  It has a good EM rate, but I'd like it to be a bit faster.  Can't have everything, lol.
Seems a little short on healing as a result of being short on damage.  I think dropping a heal would really dip its EM rate low though.  I'm sure if anyone can fix it you're the man for the job!

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277418#msg277418
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 02:09:55 am »
I tried it with 5 frogs and 3 heals.  It was definately faster, but not sure if its more efficient though.  Frogs die much easier, but launch better on the 1st turn as well.

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Re: Cocky about them EMs https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21620.msg277535#msg277535
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 06:54:45 am »
Well, you want to make it more EM-ish. I think that if you drop one heal and add more attack power, you'll be able to win quicker, thus higher EM chance. Maybe you could even add a Haxx Fog Shield, it could help.

 

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