Firecell FG OTK [Unupped] [Rareless]

[ColorlessGreen]

Nice deck, but you should note that you can't actually beat lionheart by deck-out unless I'm extremely unlucky or something. 3 times vs him and he just eternities/crusader eternity endowed he's scarabs back to the top of he's deck hence, he cant deck out.

He has a tendency to make everything immortal and then not be able to rewind anything.

He will sometimes stop quinting scarabs when he's low on cards if he doesn't already have a full quinted field before he hits <=5 cards remaining in order to bounce them. This appears to be a trick which was deliberately taught to him by Zanz, though I'm not 100% sure about that specific part of it.

However, he seems to eventually "forget" that he's not quinting things so as to survive deckout, and either plays a new creature (if he has one) and quints it, or just goes ahead and quints the scarabs he's been bouncing. Not really sure what the AI "thought" process is there, but often if you wait around long enough, you can still get the deckout even if he is bouncing with eternity. It can sometimes take several turns for him to "forget" and quint stuff.

It's certainly possible to lose to him if he gets into a scarab bouncing loop and doesn't "forget" and deck out soon enough, though.

[nanoman999]

Don't want to read all of the other replies on this post so i might sound a bit redundant but:

I love this deck. It has become my new fav ai4 farmer. I have won 3 upped cards in the past six ai4 games and won 4 of the matches. Only thing i changed before even using it against ai4 was adding 1 more vulture because i didn't get the vulture until the third to last card. Still won tho

[Chapuz]

Don't want to read all of the other replies on this post so i might sound a bit redundant but:

I love this deck. It has become my new fav ai4 farmer. I have won 3 upped cards in the past six ai4 games and won 4 of the matches. Only thing i changed before even using it against ai4 was adding 1 more vulture because i didn't get the vulture until the third to last card. Still won tho

Why another vulture? You should have enough with the Fractal to get 200+ damage most of the times

[nanoman999]

Why another vulture? You should have enough with the Fractal to get 200+ damage most of the times
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aha ya, but there are times when the aflatoxin just doesn't come in fast enough, or that opponent plays just a few too many high hp cards and that small extra boost really allows you to oneshot kill. And LOLS  against a lvl 4 i was about to win with my 216atk chimera and had 1 card left to draw. i used one of my hourglasses to make the game closer (just makes me feel good ) and was at 0 cards. then out of curiosity i used another one and lost. so sad. Oh well, enough ranting. I love this deck and gave it a 5/5. Its just bad with quanta denial and perm control.

[Chapuz]

hey guys just trying to decide which way to go on my 1st FG deck: devonian frOTKal or this firecell? Plus should i work toward the limitless or just up one of these once i actually get some money

I would say Firecell insteas of Dev FrOTKal, because it's smaller so you don't lack of shields. I also suggest making Limitless Speed as soon as possible (or upgrade the hourglasses and keep this deck) until you can make a consistent upped bronze grinder for shards

[Chapuz]

the closest i got was 190 vs. firequeen. last card and epic fail

Weird, Fire queen easy to kill because you don't even need an afla. Are you getting 5-6 vultures?

[Pineapple]

ok so i just got your firecell and trying the strategy now will let you guys know the results..............((couple hours later)) not 1 win at all so bad i had to reset my acct again, its cool tho im getting used 2 it................((next day)) got the set up in trainer to give it another chance cause ive never got bad advice from chaputz since im less frusterated today.

the closest i got was 190 vs. firequeen. last card and epic fail

Um...Just checking...you understand the core concept behind the deck, right? Stall, draw, and keep the combo cards in your hand, then on the last turn play all the combo cards in the correct order to deal more than 200 damage in one turn giving the enemy no chance to react?

I don't see how Fire Queen would have HP between 200 and 0 if you're playing it correctly..

[redyul]

Nice deck, but you should note that you can't actually beat lionheart by deck-out unless I'm extremely unlucky or something. 3 times vs him and he just eternities/crusader eternity endowed he's scarabs back to the top of he's deck hence, he cant deck out.

You are, actually, unlucy against Lionheart. He uses to quint all his creatures, ending in no rewindable creatures (it depends if he plays anubis or eternities in the beginning of the game).
Other times he can only rewind 1 creature, ending in decking out too (because he has 2x draw), so the only way he can't deck out is playing 2 eternities (or crusaders) before his first Anubis.

It happened the same to me. it is not matter of luck. They have improved AI possibly.... : Lionheart always leaves 1 -2 without immortality and keeps on sending back in the deck. it is clear his strategy and it happens all the time i played so it is not l coincidence that he never decks out. i stopped playing against him and loosing coins.
Same issue with my previous comment on other FG.

Quite like the deck. i played the non rare version against Hecate twice lost. it was slow and my shields where nullified
If should be taken out of the FG list

I believe deck is still very good for an un upped/ rareless with a brilliant combo  but the list needs amendments

Spoiler for Hidden:

Incarnate 240 EM

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max damage 460 EM L3

[ColorlessGreen]

You are, actually, unlucy against Lionheart. He uses to quint all his creatures, ending in no rewindable creatures (it depends if he plays anubis or eternities in the beginning of the game).
Other times he can only rewind 1 creature, ending in decking out too (because he has 2x draw), so the only way he can't deck out is playing 2 eternities (or crusaders) before his first Anubis.

It happened the same to me. it is not matter of luck. They have improved AI possibly.... : Lionheart always leaves 1 -2 without immortality and keeps on sending back in the deck. it is clear his strategy and it happens all the time i played so it is not l coincidence that he never decks out. i stopped playing against him and loosing coins.
Same issue with my previous comment on other FG.

Lionheart does not always leave 1-2 unquinted. He often does, but he almost always winds up actually quinting them eventually, and frequently winds up with them quinted before he hits the deckout panic stage (<=5 cards remaining in deck, which is when he starts RT'ing his own creatures).

Just keep going when he's in that situation - he'll usually quint his creatures eventually and then deckout.

[Chapuz]

Also, remember that in the cases Lionheart can rewind only 1 creature, he will deck out too (because of the double draw). The only cases he doesn't deck out is when he rewinds 2 creatures.

[CuCN]

Also, remember that in the cases Lionheart can rewind only 1 creature, he will deck out too (because of the double draw). The only cases he doesn't deck out is when he rewinds 2 creatures.

But his hand can get clogged up with extra shields, quintessences, creatures that can't be played because of space, etc., so that he only draws one card per turn.

[Chapuz]

Also, remember that in the cases Lionheart can rewind only 1 creature, he will deck out too (because of the double draw). The only cases he doesn't deck out is when he rewinds 2 creatures.

But his hand can get clogged up with extra shields, quintessences, creatures that can't be played because of space, etc., so that he only draws one card per turn.

I just remember myself beating him many timed by deckout, and seem not to be the only one. I suggest not to skip Lionheart because it's an easy win, but iit'a up to you.