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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg224566#msg224566
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2010, 03:03:32 pm »
Any thoughts about silence in here

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg229084#msg229084
« Reply #85 on: December 20, 2010, 12:38:45 pm »
Ok TwinBuster, you really make some of those FG are easy to beat. I just use this deck and kick Destiny's Deck out (Even I almost killed because no shield ==")
I just take a SS of the battle so check it out.


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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg229283#msg229283
« Reply #86 on: December 20, 2010, 06:03:09 pm »
i like this i beat gemini with unupgraded with darkness mark cause i forget to change :P
and i win a phase recluse  :D

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg230520#msg230520
« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2010, 11:20:44 pm »
Whats the thought on osiris after catapault?  First time i played him after the upgrade he never used them and I won, but today he just kept bonking me with it and killed me pretty easy. 

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg230592#msg230592
« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2010, 01:25:14 am »
It is painful. Now you need an early Lobo to shut it down. Osiris drop out from the easy list.

Edit: It is now impossible. 12 pharaoh x 9HP = 108 direct damage, not yet mentioned the momentum. 2 SoGs can't save you from that much direct damage.

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg235958#msg235958
« Reply #89 on: December 30, 2010, 05:06:07 am »
Wow I mean just wow this deck is making me so rich i could just... just.... well idk but wow.... i.... uh....

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg235962#msg235962
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2010, 05:19:43 am »
Anyway Elidnis is being slightly underestimated. He can reflect spells with his shield. And not knowing this I wasted time on him just to epically own myself with fire bolt.
 :(  :time  :underworld  :time  :(


update: ferox has it too!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg235972#msg235972
« Reply #91 on: December 30, 2010, 05:37:48 am »
Anyway Elidnis is being slightly underestimated. He can reflect spells with his shield. And not knowing this I wasted time on him just to epically own myself with fire bolt.
 :(  :time  :underworld  :time  :(


update: ferox has it too!!!!!!!!!!
not demanding you to go through the whole thread, but please read the first page at least.

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg236029#msg236029
« Reply #92 on: December 30, 2010, 09:10:06 am »
O...k... another winning, and got beaten. Oh well, your deck still great at least.
I have a quite bad time with paradox since didn't draw shields D:


Using Fahrenheit to kill FG for second time.

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer 1.25 (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg236091#msg236091
« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2010, 12:45:44 pm »
I just wanted to say that this is an amazing, straight up deck and I have stats if anyone wants them.

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Fire Lance Sudden Killer 1.26 (un-upped and upped fg killer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg236164#msg236164
« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2010, 03:48:52 pm »
DISCLAIMER:
These decks were created by: twinsbuster. This topic was not meant in any way to steal credit for deck creation but to update and include a guide. Though i did change the original Lobotomizer in the upped deck to a Fahrenheit.


Upped version
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un-upped version


It probably is the best FG killer for newbies because it is much cheaper than a rainbow deck.
No upgrades are needed, you can just build this deck immediately after finishing all of the quests.
The upgrade isn't even necessary, just helps you fight rushes and ensure your win.

The strategy is simple, and boring:

1.) All you have to do is put down a phase shield every 3 turns.
2.) Draw until your last card in your deck.
3.) Use the 6 fire bolts/fire lances in one turn and kill the FG on that turn.

P.S:
Normally you'll have to start the shields when 18-19 cards left in your deck.
The more turns past 18-19 you go, the higher your win percentage.
So the dimensional shield/phase shields chain does not break,
you should have gone through all cards in your deck and there should be no other probability to lose.

Quantum:

Nova: Used to gain Time and Light Quantum. Necessary for powering Sundial and Reflective Shield.

Fire Pillar: Used to get Fire Quantum. Necessary for powering Bolts and Fahrenheit.

Aether pillar: Used to gain Aether Quantum. Necessary for powering Dimensional Shield.

Offence:

Fire Bolt: You need this to kill the fg's at the end. You need 119 fire quantum to kill a fg from 200 life.

Bolt 1-3:   36 damage
Bolt 4:      33 damage each
Bolt 5-6:   30 damage each
But the Fahrenheit will do nearly 20 something damage and will help.

Defence:

Sundial: You don't need this card to win. It's an extra turn of stall and that means an extra turn of Fire Quanta. DO NOT USE THE LIGHT QUANTA TO DRAW A CARD.

Reflective Shield: You need this card against FG's that use a Reflective Shield or a Jade Shield. Use the Nova to power this shield. To use it, play it on your last turn and use the Fire Bolts on yourself. They'll reflect and hit the FG. Only necessary against: Elidinis Ferox Miracle Paradox

Dimensional Shield: You need this to stall damage to get enough Fire Quantum to kill the FG on your last draw.
Start playing your Dimensional Shield when you're on turn 18-19 so that you won't break the chain.
From there, play one every three turns until you draw your last card.
The longer you wait to play your shields, the higher your percentage of winning. Wait until you have about 30 life.
Quantum:



Light Pendulum: Used to play Reflective Shield and also gain Aether Quantum if played early.

Fire Pendulum: Used to get more Fire Quantum and Aether Quantum at the same time.

Fire Tower: Used to get Fire Quantum. Necessary for powering Lances and Fahrenheit.

Aether tower: Used to gain Aether Quantum. Necessary for powering Phase Shield.

Offence:

Fire Lance: You need this to kill the FG's at the end. You need 114 Fire Quantum to kill a FG from 200 life.

Lance 1-4: 36 damage
Lance 5-6: 33 damage

But the Fahrenheit will do nearly 20 something damage and will help.

Defence:



Shard of Gratitude: Used to fight against poison, morte, and to gain EM's.

Sundial: Needs no quantum to play. Used as a stall and if there is enough Light Quantum, to draw.

Reflective Shield: You need this card against fg's that use a Reflective Shield or a Jade Shield. Use the Light Pendulum to power this shield. To use it, play it on your last turn and use the Fire Lances on yourself. They'll reflect and hit the FG. Only necessary against: Elidinis Ferox Miracle Paradox

Phase Shield: You need this to stall damage to get enough Fire Quantum to kill the FG on your last draw.
Start playing your Phase Shield when you're on turn 18-19 so that you won't break the chain.
From there, play one every three turns until you draw your last card.
The longer you wait to play your shields, the higher your percentage of winning. Wait until you have about 30 life.

(about one half of all FGs are beatable with this deck), but with high win rate on them (more than 40%)

Piece of cake:
 Destiny = Watch out for momentum.
 Elidnis = Just follow the guide. (Reflective Shield)
 Ferox = Watch out for rushes.  (Reflective Shield)
 Fire Queen = Just follow the guide.
 Incarnate = Just follow the guide.
 Miracle = Just follow the guide. (Reflective Shield)
 Neptune = Just follow the guide.
 Paradox -Just follow the guide. (Reflective shield)

Challenging:
 Chaos Lord = Has Explosions and Steals.
 Morte = Watch out for poison, harder un-upped.

Skip:

All of them are too hard or too prolonging to play, just skip and save time.

 Dark Matter
 Decay
 Divine Glory
 Dream Catcher
 Eternal Phoenix
 Gemini
 Graviton
 Hermes
 Obliterator
 Octane
 Osiris
 Rainbow
 Scorpio
 Seism

Upgrades are as follows: Sundial -> +Light Pendulum (-nova) -> Fire Pendulums (-aether pillars) -> Aether Pillars -> Fire Pillar -> Dimensional Shield -> Fire Bolts -> Shard of Gratitudes (-fire pillars)

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Re: Fire Lance Sudden Killer 1.26 (un-upped and upped fg killer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg236548#msg236548
« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2010, 09:58:35 pm »
you really dont have to make a new thread if all you do is change a few cards. also, just ask twins to add a god-by-god breakdown and he would probably add it.
Imagine what the forums would be like if there was a new thread for every CCYB or Sha'kars variant.
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