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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg139366#msg139366
« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2010, 09:22:43 pm »
Tyvm for the info.

This is proof of my most successful game with any false gods. I have obtained enough quantum to kill Incarnate with only 4 lances.
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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg139676#msg139676
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2010, 07:19:54 am »
i have suggested using lobotomizer instead of fahrenheit in this deck and looking at the pendulums tweak, i think it would be even better since you dont need all of the bolts to win
one can argue that higher fire quanta generation also means better fahrenheit damage output but lobo is still a lot more useful in many situation

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg139680#msg139680
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2010, 07:27:40 am »
just realize this deck being moved to rainbow deck section.
They are so serious :(

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg139735#msg139735
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2010, 10:05:37 am »
i have suggested using lobotomizer instead of fahrenheit in this deck and looking at the pendulums tweak, i think it would be even better since you dont need all of the bolts to win
one can argue that higher fire quanta generation also means better fahrenheit damage output but lobo is still a lot more useful in many situation
I'd probably argue to keep both, although that might be going over the top. The Fahrenheit can make up for a bad pillar draw in just a couple of turns- even drawing it in the last 5 turns with only 80 fire quanta can still give you a chance of winning, while lobo wouldn't.
Lobo would help against FQ and Osiris, and probably a few others, disabling any possible means of damage.
If you had both then you're more likely to draw a weapon at a reasonable point in the fight, and both are pretty useful in their own ways..



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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg139798#msg139798
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2010, 01:03:41 pm »
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Can someone teach me how to upload a profile picture? I flipped the account management page upside down but still can't find it.
you need a number of posts to use forum profile pic
100 (if i'm not mistaken) for a predetermined set you can choose from
200 for your own personal album
its actually 30 posts for a predetermind set

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg141168#msg141168
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2010, 08:27:48 am »
I found that the arrival of the pendulum change a lot of things. It did improve the stability of my deck and enabled me to do some minor change.

I did could remove a nova by replacing it by a light pendulum , and also due to the four pendulum I always had enough red mana early to kill so I removed a fire tower. So the light pendulum made me play upgraded sundial to accelerate the deck and increase give a better chance to have enough phase shield. You don t necessary needs to draw the card , but you definitively have the opportunity to do so.

I believe two shard of gratitude is enough , it helps compensate poisining , sometimes momentum , but also to come back to full life in case you re missing a phase shield.

I was thinking of removing a firelance but it does decrease the chance to kill quickly.

I have only one electrocutor but it does really help against deck with momentum.

New firelance

Here is the code to import the deck

The pendulum are 1*light pendulum and 4*fire pendulum

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5lg 6rn 6rn 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7la 7q9 7q9 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80e
This decked helped me farm a lot , basically around 9000 gold coins every day.
I don t know about the statistic but it s really good against the gods listed on the first post of this thread.

I m just now checking for creatures , maybe get some new deck to farm the other false gods and get different weapons.

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg141176#msg141176
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2010, 08:52:43 am »
What a great change with pendulum.

With two upped sundial, the chance of breaking chain shields can be greatly reduced. They help you to draw 4 cards, plus the 18 turn stall with shields chain, you can draw 22 cards from your deck in total without taking damage.

So there are spaces to add 1-2 cards to make it be a 31 cards deck. (Without Fahrenheit you may need more turns to get quantum when the fire towers are packed at the bottom.)
One more weapon, SoG or upped sundial may also be a good choice.

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg143748#msg143748
« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2010, 03:44:38 am »
I believe two shard of gratitude is enough , it helps compensate poisining , sometimes momentum , but also to come back to full life in case you re missing a phase shield.

I believe you try to wait until you have 18 cards left, or 20 (if you add the sundials), but if you get rusher gods like Miracle who sends out his dragons and pegasuses quick, you might not have the means to stall and endure for that long or have enough quantum to start setting up shields early. A healthy amount of shards to have would be 4-5.
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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg144690#msg144690
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2010, 07:46:56 am »
18/19 cards left is only five turns give or take that you need to survive early rush and in a 30 or 31 card deck, it means you'll be likely seeing a stall card (phase shield or sundial) 1 out of 3 cards drawn which is just the right amount
adding more cards means a few more turns added to that which is very crucial
so adding any more SoGs (or other cards) ironically wont help you survive anymore than it did to hurt you
3 SoGs is about as far as i'd go and 32 card max (with 2 electrocuter)

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg145983#msg145983
« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2010, 02:17:35 am »
I'll update the version of 1.25 with pendulums once the card codes are ready.

but with the addition of light pendulum and upped sundial, I may have to say sundials have the first upgrade piority now.

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg147432#msg147432
« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2010, 07:33:13 pm »
Possibly switch mark to :fire? I've been coming up with more than the needed :aether, so.... ?

And Miracle has and uses Jade Shield, so you may want to consider her as a not easy FG

Nume

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg147443#msg147443
« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2010, 08:02:23 pm »
From my little experience, while its true you end up with extra aether a lot of the time, its still crucial to get it in time so I dont know if it would be wise to change the mark. As far as miracle, thats what the reflective shield is in the deck for. You just equip that, and cast the spells on yourself so they reflect to miracle.

 

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