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stripe1000

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg120686#msg120686
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2010, 03:41:21 am »
Off to farm for 2 lobos.  I dont know why i didnt think of that myself ::) ..thanks for the heads up :D

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg120690#msg120690
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2010, 03:50:57 am »
Off to farm for 2 lobos.  I dont know why i didnt think of that myself ::) ..thanks for the heads up :D
two approach:

Electrocutter
lobo momentum and other dangerous creatures, use 6 fire bolt to kill

Fahrenheit
kill those creatures with 4-5 fire bolt, use Fahrenheit and the last bolt to kill

tmhopper

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg127025#msg127025
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2010, 06:08:31 am »
you say "to remind that non-rainbows can beat false gods..."

That is a rainbow!

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg127074#msg127074
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2010, 08:23:12 am »
so.. you need teh 1/34 of drawing that nova, then the mirrorshield, and thus if you play sundial, you cant draw. seems abit lame imho, just saying.

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg127077#msg127077
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2010, 08:42:20 am »
so.. you need teh 1/34 of drawing that nova, then the mirrorshield, and thus if you play sundial, you cant draw. seems abit lame imho, just saying.
You are supposed to go through every card while playing with this deck, so it' doesn't matter when will you draw the cards other than Phase Shields.

you say "to remind that non-rainbows can beat false gods..."

That is a rainbow!
OK, you win...

kobisjeruk

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg127082#msg127082
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2010, 08:51:58 am »
so.. you need teh 1/34 of drawing that nova, then the mirrorshield, and thus if you play sundial, you cant draw. seems abit lame imho, just saying.
wth are you saying? do you even know what you're talking about?
this deck is intended to 'go off' when you have approx. 110|116 fire quanta and 6 Fire Lance / Fire Bolt and thats usually in the last few turns before you decked out. nova can be casted whenever, followed by sundial if you happen to break the DS shield chain...reflective shield is only needed against FGs with jade/mirror Shield and only if they're in play by the time you want to go off
against other FGs, you can use that 1 :light to draw from sundial but it is not advisable to do so

clearly you didnt even read the first post properly on how to play the deck or didnt have any experience with the deck yourself and just come here to be a critique. why do that? do you get a lot of street cred by posting how lame a deck is even though you're way off?

redweener

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128013#msg128013
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2010, 05:39:02 pm »
Not only does the unupped deck work on FGs, I just used it to kill Paradox and got three (3!) upped cards.  thank you slots!  ;D :D ;D :D ;D

I'm using only a slightly modified version of the unupped deck from the first page (-1 aether pillar, +1 fire pillar, no sundial, no fahrenheit,  +1 lobo).  I found that the sundial just took up precious space when I could be getting that much needed Dshield or an extra fire pillar to end things early.  I would use farenheit if I had it, but the Lobotomize skill is very handy for the momentum FGs. 

Overall a rather effective deck, works for me around half the time I meet the FGs that are rated as 'piece of cake' on the first page.  Its mostly bad draws that make the deck fail (Dshield chain break, can't get the reflective shield in time, etc) in those times that I lose to the 'piece of cake' FGs. 

+kudos for helping a broke newb get some upped cards!

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128358#msg128358
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2010, 03:16:41 am »
Lucky man, sell the upgrade cards and get some SoGs :)

for the unupped version, I'll recommand 5 aether pillars with aether mark to ensure early Dim Shield, since those FG will no perm control can always rush you down

bob t billdr

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128394#msg128394
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2010, 04:54:36 am »
I read about this deck earlier today and needed to try it until I can finish upgrading my RoL/Hope FG. Finally, after getting at least 4 copies of each weapon BUT Ferenheit, and with the help of a certain T50.. ;)  I am gonna try it out. Hopefully I can have the luck he had :P

I do have a question though, and sorry if its been answered before, but how well would a SoG go in this deck? (with the rest of the deck being unupped.
(Edit) I tried and lost against Fire Queen both times. so I need them.

(Edit 2) Neptune is the easiest by far, and with SoGs, getting an EM is almost innevitable.

(Edit 3) This is my last, I promise. Ive won 3 in a row now, getting EM on 2/3. It is a great deck for the FGs listed in the Peace of Cake section. BUT, if I may, since the topic is "work with no upgrade", and so far I see no way to kill Fire Queen without SoG because of her Fire Lance, maybe consider moving her to the "Challenging" section? or maybe include that you need SoG beside her name? Anyways, great deck. Thanks for the post, twinbuster! :)

rotface

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128458#msg128458
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2010, 07:51:41 am »
sweet and not only cheao byt fun nice

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128576#msg128576
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2010, 04:06:20 pm »
I read about this deck earlier today and needed to try it until I can finish upgrading my RoL/Hope FG. Finally, after getting at least 4 copies of each weapon BUT Ferenheit, and with the help of a certain T50.. ;)  I am gonna try it out. Hopefully I can have the luck he had :P

I do have a question though, and sorry if its been answered before, but how well would a SoG go in this deck? (with the rest of the deck being unupped.
(Edit) I tried and lost against Fire Queen both times. so I need them.

(Edit 2) Neptune is the easiest by far, and with SoGs, getting an EM is almost innevitable.

(Edit 3) This is my last, I promise. Ive won 3 in a row now, getting EM on 2/3. It is a great deck for the FGs listed in the Peace of Cake section. BUT, if I may, since the topic is "work with no upgrade", and so far I see no way to kill Fire Queen without SoG because of her Fire Lance, maybe consider moving her to the "Challenging" section? or maybe include that you need SoG beside her name? Anyways, great deck. Thanks for the post, twinbuster! :)
you are right
because the top post is about the upped version with SoGs
so, Fire Queen will also be easy
single SoG + Phase Shield can give you enough time to heal to withstand the fire lance
also SoGs can help you to overcome the damage from some small momentum creatures, eg. when against Osiris
the early SoGs allow you to start your chain shields later that finally smaller the chances of chain breaking
so I'll suggest to upgrade the SoGs first if your budget is limited.

if you don't want any upgrade, you can still include 2 Lobo instead of Fahrenheit
they help you to stop FFQ and momentum creatures

bob t billdr

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg128659#msg128659
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2010, 06:37:08 pm »
So in the few hours Ive been able to actually play, Ive racked up enough to upgrade 10 cards or so? And I already have 2 SoGs. So can anyone tell me the best things to upgrade first? I read that if you put 2 Lobo, then upgrade the Aether pillars, it works great for momentum creatures, but what if you dont draw half the Fire Pillars until later on in the game? Will Fire Bolt be enough to kill them since you have replaced Ferenhite?

ANND as a tip to some people who are just starting to use this deck, or to other n00bs like me; If you're playing against a False God that uses Jade or Reflecting shields, make sure to play your Shard of Graditude BEFORE using Nova. I cant tell you how many times I have used that precious  :light on accident.

 

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