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FinalSlayer

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FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg34787#msg34787
« on: March 07, 2010, 09:18:26 pm »
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Mark- Time

-Meant for PVP, but wins 75 plus percent of the time against Half-Bloods.
-Obviously, a high variance deck with the number of cards, and can lose in miserable fashion. 
-Is weak to a pillarless Fire Cremation rush.  Very little chance of victory. 
-Decent against most other rushes that don't have tons of upgrades. 
-Pretty good against other garden variety Time/Rainbow decks. 

It's an average deck, but does quite well in PVP so far.  Thoughts? 
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 07:09:38 pm by willng3 »

icybraker

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Re: FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg34790#msg34790
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 09:24:44 pm »
Good deck, but definitely needs to be smaller. Here's how you can slim it down.

REMOVE:
2 X Reverse Time (There are better creature control alternatives)
3 X Sundial (There are better defense alternatives)
1 X Purify (Very situational)
4 X Quantum Pillar (Removing everything else reduces the need for pillars)

That will slim down the deck and make it stand a higher chance against rush decks.

Otherwise, decently built deck.

FinalSlayer

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Re: FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg34807#msg34807
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 10:11:54 pm »
Good deck, but definitely needs to be smaller. Here's how you can slim it down.

REMOVE:
2 X Reverse Time (There are better creature control alternatives)
3 X Sundial (There are better defense alternatives)
1 X Purify (Very situational)
4 X Quantum Pillar (Removing everything else reduces the need for pillars)

That will slim down the deck and make it stand a higher chance against rush decks.

Otherwise, decently built deck.
I've definitely debated taking out the Purify and especially 2 Reverse Times many, many times.  However, I'm surprised you also mentioned the Sundials; I don't just use them for defense, but also accelerating my card drawing.  I think it's completely overpowered, and if anything, I was considering adding 1 additional Sundial to my deck. 

At any rate, thanks a lot for the feedback man, it's genuinely appreciated. 

Re: FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg34847#msg34847
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 11:53:28 pm »
The thing is, since Sundial only lasts one turn, it stops the opponent's attack and lets you draw a card. However, if you didn't have it in the deck in the first place, then you would've already had the card that you would've drawn with the Sundial without wasting the :light quantum, and without waiting an extra turn. A Precognition would have the same effect.

FinalSlayer

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Re: FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg35432#msg35432
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 04:00:10 am »
The thing is, since Sundial only lasts one turn, it stops the opponent's attack and lets you draw a card. However, if you didn't have it in the deck in the first place, then you would've already had the card that you would've drawn with the Sundial without wasting the :light quantum, and without waiting an extra turn. A Precognition would have the same effect.
That's not completely accurate either; yes, if I didn't have a Sundial, I could draw that same card, but with Sundial, I get an extra turn's worth of mana, which is sometimes the difference between being able to play it or not. 

Ultimately, it amounts to the same thing; a one turn staller. 

If you think there are better defensive options, what would you suggest?  An Oty?  Also, I will end up having way too much Time mana without them, so should I put in a fifth Electrum/Golden Hourglass?

Zigabogado

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Re: FinalSlayer's "Slow Starter" PVP deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3723.msg36048#msg36048
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 08:22:53 am »
Good deck, but definitely needs to be smaller. Here's how you can slim it down.

REMOVE:
2 X Reverse Time (There are better creature control alternatives)
3 X Sundial (There are better defense alternatives)
1 X Purify (Very situational)
4 X Quantum Pillar (Removing everything else reduces the need for pillars)

That will slim down the deck and make it stand a higher chance against rush decks.

Otherwise, decently built deck.
I agree, it does need to be smaller, but the Steals were a great idea for this deck.

 

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