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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1105999#msg1105999
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2013, 12:24:26 pm »
Hey so I've been trying this deck out for about a week and recording my battles VS Bronze arena

Wins: 54
Losses: 6
Wins that were EMs: 3


Spoiler for Game by game stats and losses explained:
W10 W6 W8 E2 W9 W8 W7 L15 (Antimatter and lack of CC to deal with it) W11 L9 (SoW immortals, bad draws, no hourglasses) W7
W9 W6 W12 W8 W11 W10 W8 W5 W10 W13 W9 W8 W8 W8 W7 L12 (extreme bad draw vs mono dark) W10 W8
L11 (no towers OR SN until turn 5) W11 W8 W10 L8 (fire rush, limited CC drawn)  W6 W8 W8 W12 E8 W8 W8
W8 W2 W12 W7 W8 W9 W8 W8 L9 (bad draw no SN only 1 QT) W8 W7 E2 W8 W8 W5 W7 W11 W8 W8

I almost feel bad to post it and ruin the epic winrate from the former testing, but I assure you these are legitimate results. Most losses came through bad draws with the issue mostly being lack of quanta and CC.

I like to think I played every game smartly, I feel none of the losses could have been circumvented with better play, if you don't have quanta or CC then you simply can't do anything. Perhaps I was unlucky to get so many games with bad draws? It's a fun deck so I will likely continue using it and recording my data.

I'm not a huge fan of the Crusader, though he probably has saved me a few times. A 5 quanta cost and then an extra 2 quanta cost to actually be useful is extremely high for a deck this low on quanta production and almost a "rush". You could possibly replace 1 or both of the fog shields with wings, seeing as you have 3 spiders and some CC to deal with flyers you can't web.
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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106162#msg1106162
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2013, 05:11:36 am »
I'm rolling with about half of this deck and it works like a charm.   just went about 115-5(unofficial).  Do not enter Bronze Arena w/o Pulverizer.  Upped shards help too of course  8)
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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106173#msg1106173
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2013, 09:05:42 am »
Will Try this later.

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106175#msg1106175
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2013, 09:46:29 am »
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What makes this deck most magnificent is that it has 2 Hourglasses. Without them, this would only do as good as any other speedbows out there. And using exact cards instead of SoSe give you the right opportunity to actually draw the cards you need and not get cards you don't need or dragons you can't afford.
It uses the most efficient attackers for each element except where PC or CC are granted instead. Crusader is also a 'must-have' in speedbows, since that makes you possible to have 2 of your precious weapons equipped.

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106205#msg1106205
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2013, 03:49:48 pm »
Regarding crusader: if any of you really don't like it, it can be replaced with a blessing or an archangel or something (though I wouldn't personally recommend the switch). It is not vital, but it's extremely handy to be able to endow pulvy (or discord for that matter) when you're against a PC-spamming opponent. The deck should still work basically just fine without it, though, and making the deck fit your particular playstyle is more important than sticking with exactly my personal preferences.

@Froglord: Bad luck happens. A 90% win rate even with (what looks to me like) an unusually high amount of bad luck is still a good result. And thank you very much for adding some more stats!

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106293#msg1106293
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2013, 10:45:55 pm »
I'm going to test it :) I still need to get some unupped rares :)
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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106317#msg1106317
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 12:58:56 am »
I tried it 10 times, 10 wins.

You could possibly replace 1 or both of the fog shields with wings, seeing as you have 3 spiders and some CC to deal with flyers you can't web.

I agree, since you also got the Hourglass to replace quickly one by the other.

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106320#msg1106320
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 01:05:45 am »
You can substitute wings for fog shields if you'd like. This deck is loosely based on wrecking ball (which was the only upped deck this particular alt had), which uses wings, so I'd played several hundred games of a vaguely similar deck using wings right before I made this one. Wings may be better (I haven't actually tested it in this sort of deck, but it's definitely a fantastic card), but here's my rationale for switching to fog shields in this deck:

-Dragons are everywhere. Phase dragons in particular are everywhere and can't be webbed. Being able to beat mono aether reliably was pretty much goal #1 when designing this deck, and relying on CC/wings means pretty much every phase dragon-based MA (of which there are many in bronze, as I'm sure you're aware) is going to tear through the deck most of the time.
-Fog shields are cheaper.
-Fog shields being stolen when you're out of PC is annoying but not game over. Wings being stolen is terrible given the number of non-airborne attackers in this deck.
-Fog shield works on airborne creatures that were just played (i.e. the dragons that are everywhere), while wings (even if you have a spider) lets dragons hit you once minimum before you can web them.
-It's bronze, so end-game HP is totally irrelevant.
-To use wings, I like three copies, while I only feel like I need two for fog shields. More card space for damage.
-Hax shield is hax.
-Probably other stuff I'm forgetting - will add more when I remember.

With all that said, though, if you feel like trying wings out in their place, please do and let me know how it works.

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106337#msg1106337
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2013, 02:38:59 am »
you had me at phase dragons :p no wings

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106381#msg1106381
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2013, 09:57:31 am »
With all that said, though, if you feel like trying wings out in their place, please do and let me know how it works.

Very weaker than Fog, I tested it. As you say, Drakes are everywhere...

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-May clog your hand.
-Sometimes you don't know if you had to wait to play it or not, since it last 5 turns.

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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106802#msg1106802
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2013, 10:29:37 am »
Tried it in the bronze league.
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 I lost because the opponent had black holes.
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Re: FEVER - Farm Endless Very Easy Rares [Bronze][Upped][Shardless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51399.msg1106806#msg1106806
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2013, 11:57:17 am »
Ok, I tested that deck playing 100 games. For me it was 90% (90 wins, 10 losses). It had brilliant 24 games winning streak, then loss, win and another loss :(

First loss (25th game)  took place against crimson dragon rush with 153 hp.

Second loss (27th game) was against mono-death with 145hp due to poor RNG and 8 poison counter which you can't remove in this deck.

Third loss (34th game) was also against mono-death with 122hp.

Fourth loss (39th game) happened against immo rush with 128hp.

Fifth loss (46th game) also against mono-fire again.

Sixth loss (47th game) - I was frozen by arctic squids and I lost also due to huge hp -193 - not common in bronze.

Seventh loss (49th game) against rainbow with 170hp.

Eighth loss (62th game) took place against psions rush with 133hp.

Ninth loss (74th game) against immotush again.

Tenth loss (99th game) was again due to huge hp (187) against mono life.

All in all, it is a good bronze grinder but it sometimes take some time to make a decent damage - only 5 quanta towers result in situations that you have to wait 2 turns to play nova, too late against rushes. Limited number of CC and PC is a problem as well. On the other hand, for a deck without rares, which should be taken into cosideration while rating this deck, it is a solid grinder which gave me 14 special spins.

Thank you for this deck :)

« Last Edit: November 01, 2013, 11:59:06 am by Krzysiekxd »
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