False God deck, permanents, no thanks

[Levgre]

I'm working on an anti-false god deck that forgoes using permanents, using instead more spells and creatures.  This eliminates a possible vulnerability, as permanents can be destroyed.

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5rp 5rp 5rp 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u6 71b 71b 71b 74b 74b 74b 7do 7do 7do 7k2 7km 7km 7n3 7q8 7q9 7q9 7q9 7qk 80h 80h 8pj

Deck is pretty straightforward, there are 3 otyughs, 3 fire storms, and 3 bone walls so the chances are high to draw some soon.  The main purpose of sundials is to buy time so quantum can be saved up, or so the otyugh can devour more enemies.  While they can be destroyed, they have a very small cost and will make the FG target them instead of your towers with their permanent destruction.

The Golden Nymph is pretty much optional... it's a nice big creature and a way to draw cards without an hourglass (and sometimes seeing the FG's hand is helpful).  Perhaps other nymphs could fit in the deck better.

All the healing cards are spells, 2 shards of divinity and an improved miracle.  A 120 or 140 miracle can really help late game.

There is 1 weapon, eternity, to avoid decking out verse gods like miracle.  I'm not sure if it is necessary yet though, although it is still helpful.

I'm not sure how good the deck is yet, but it wins pretty well against many of the original gods at least.  If anyone wants to try something similar without permanents, or tweak this deck, that'd be cool  .

A possible modification is adding a Ulitharid and taking out an Otyugh.  3 Otyughs are likely not needed with 3 firestorms too..

[Kameda]

Do you have some status for us to see how good the deck can be?

[TheMadEvil]

The only problem I see with this deck is that you are centering around not having permanents, but you still have Shards, Towers, and Sundials, all of which are permanents to be targeted until Bone Wall comes out (or until AI is fixed to not target Bone Wall...) This means that IF you are playing against a deflag-type heavy opponent, your towers will be targeted first, then Shards and SD when you get them out. If you are playing against an opponent without permanent destruction, then you are missing out on useful cards...
Of course, I don't have Towers (only Pillars) so I'm not sure just how fast the quantum adds up, but Supernova only adds so much...I wonder how fast you run out of Gravity, Life, and Time

Could be great, though, who am I to judge without playing it? Just some thoughts

[xdude]

Shard of Divinity is a spell...

[casthegamer]

i don't know how well this deck performs, but it's claim to fame will not be it's lack of permanents as half the cards are permanents...

[Levgre]

I've revised the deck a bit since last posting, I will track and post statistics soon.



1 elven druid, 1 improved plague, and 1 improved anti-matter have been added, and now all 6 sunglasses are not upgraded.

1 otyugh, Golden Nymph, 1 Fire Storm, 1 eternity, and 1 shard of divinity have been removed.

The elven druid adds some more diversity for creature removal/modification, improved plague is an alternative creature killing card, and improved anti-matter can be an extremely effective healing card at times.  The eternity and Golden Nymph seemed to have limited use at times so they are out.


Casthegamer, while it is true that half the cards are permanents, I am mostly comparing it to more ;standard; rainbow anti-FG decks.  In those decks, you will find all/any of the following: Empathic Bond, multiple weapons, hourglasses, shards of generosity, graveyard/boneyards, and more, as part of the central strategy.  6-7 types of permanents is common.

So while sundials and towers do remain in the deck, sundials are extremely low cost permanents and only last a turn so are not very permanent...
Towers are sort of a given for most decks... and I consider them in a separate class from most permanents.
Bone walls are permanents, but are very different in that they do suffer from the weakness of being stealable or deflagable.


So permanents aren't completely gone, sure, but the reliance on them for strategy and winning is greatly reduced.  Now, this may likely not be the right path to take, as permanents can be very powerful.  But perhaps it has potential.

[Wisemage]

wtf is that Mark of Fire card?

[icybraker]

Some people won it in tourneys or won it off of people who have it in their decks after they won it off of the T50 who won it off of the tourneys. It's just as pillar.