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Dust to Dust [AI3][OTK][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56925.msg1169322#msg1169322
« on: December 02, 2014, 09:04:59 pm »
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The idea is to fill at least half your opponents field with malignant cells while hiding behind your sundials.
With 2 graveyards up and at least half the enemies field with malignant cells, you can start the combo.
Play 2 vultures the firestorm or thunderstorm the cells. Your graveyards fill your whole field with skeletons falling as quickly to dust as they appeared thanks to dry spell.
Use your remaining cc to kill some more stuff, then sky blitz for win.

Damage is really dependant on your opponents field, varies from ~80 (TTK) to more than 250.
Therefore the cards for the final blow are quite flexible. In the worst case you need 2 Graveyards + 2 Vulltures for 12 :death and Thunderstorm + Sky Blitz for 12 :air.
Other elements are no problem at all.

The weak point is that you need to stall at least 5 turns of growing cells with 6 sundials. If you get all of them, you are mostly fine but with 2 or 3 burrowed, you gonna have a hard time. PC is obviously a problem.

I'm sure this can be tweaked some more.

Possible changes I considered:
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Shield/Skull Shield:
With sundials as your only defence, a shield seems nice. But I didn't find the right time for this to make a real difference. In the beginning when few creatures are around, those absorb only a few points of dmg, but later on you either can't afford to let your sundial chain break or the opponents fields is filled enough to finnish.

Fog Shield:
Can be awesome, can be awful, I personally don't like it. Also costs precious  :air.

Sanctuary:
Generally a good card, all the weaknesses it covers are crucial. But blocks your hand when you most need it unless RNG loves you. I prefer spending my  :light on draws.

Heal:
Simple and straightforward, probably one of the best additions.

Chimera:
Helps mainly against gravity shield + bone wall. Mono aether is a pain anyway, since we have no target for Afla.

Fractal/PU:
This version deals enough dmg to kill the opponents it was designed against. FG are too fast for this to stall with the sundias only, but it may work fully upped, not sure.

Photon:
It helps against Immaterials, but I don't like to have such a situational card. It may be burrowed when needed and 2 slots are definitely too much.

Vampire Dagger:
If you prefer a weapon over the OTK, the dagger is your best bet.  Cheap, heals you, pretty much what you want. Druidic staff might work too, but I prefer this.

Arsenic:
Yes Arsenic is strong, and it can win you games BUT your opponent has suddenly some target for his steal. I have the maxime "Never pack your own counter", so nope.

Purify:
Possible addition for pvp since poison isn't an issue with elders.

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Re: Dust to Dust [AI3][OTK][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56925.msg1169346#msg1169346
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 11:00:18 pm »
This idea has been explored before: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/rainbow-decks/firecell-fg-otk-(unupped)-(rareless)/
Although I really like the added boneyards and dry spell combo! I definitely think you need more defense in this. Fog Shield is probably your best bet. If you don't believe in the power of the fog, ask SpikeSpiegel.
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Re: Dust to Dust [AI3][OTK][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56925.msg1169353#msg1169353
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 11:42:01 pm »
Actually, the first one with this combo was The Three Birds of DOOM. I would drop the RoF and Thunderstorm, the Dry Spells should be enough as you are killing Cells + Skeles (except the pharaoh deck, AI3 don't play many creatures). And yeah, you are tight on  :death so replacing Vultures for a Parallel Universe is a good idea. Adding another pillar or SoBr or dimensional shield won't hurt.

Well done! First non-FG deck I see with this combo. +rep
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Re: Dust to Dust [AI3][OTK][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56925.msg1169483#msg1169483
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 10:56:11 pm »
I would drop the RoF and Thunderstorm, the Dry Spells should be enough as you are killing Cells + Skeles (except the pharaoh deck, AI3 don't play many creatures). And yeah, you are tight on  :death so replacing Vultures for a Parallel Universe is a good idea. Adding another pillar or SoBr or dimensional shield won't hurt.

Well done! First non-FG deck I see with this combo. +rep
Actually dropping RoF and TS won't work  because the dry spell kills my own vulture. I could drop the RoF for another bravery, but keep the thunderstorm, or drop the thunder and add precog for more draw power.

A single dim shield would be nice indeed. I didn't come across the idea because with dim shield, long shield chains come to my mind instantly.
Still undecided about the PU, I see its usefulness, but I didn't miss it yet.

And thx fot the rep.

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Re: Dust to Dust [AI3][OTK][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56925.msg1169490#msg1169490
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 12:06:58 am »
Oops forgot about that little detail of Vultures having 1 HP  :P
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