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ryanaj

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Re: Draw.gon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22845.msg367558#msg367558
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 09:44:21 pm »
i cant really help with deck making but these decks are really good and needs more attention soooo -BUMP-  ;D

Jaxly

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Re: Draw.gon + (V.V) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22845.msg367589#msg367589
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 11:10:31 pm »
Thanks mate! Appreciate it :)
Updated OP to current relevancy.
Was transfered to rainbow decks from help section (Thanks for that willng3 :D)
Added (V.V)

Just because this isn't in help section doesn't mean you can't help!
If you'd like to or have any advice or ideas please don't hesitate to share
- I'll add people who help out to the credit list if that's what tickles your boat.

Thanks to all posters and onlookers,
Jaxly

silux

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Re: Draw.gon + (V.V) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22845.msg368536#msg368536
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 11:43:42 pm »
Most counter could be neutralized with a Sanctuary.
Nice card to test:
Bonewall
Cloak
Nightmare
Basilisk blood


Jaxly

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Re: Draw.gon + (V.V) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22845.msg368820#msg368820
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2011, 02:34:18 pm »
Thanks for coming back and lending more advice :D

Sanctuary is awesome in this deck, but it's really hard for me to add it.
I did a lot of play-testing with sanctuary and there nearly always needed to be a choice to play sanctuary or draw a card, or a need for sanctuary to be discarded in favour of something else.
If sanctuary was added, it would be the highest costing card outside the actual combo. (Time towers make up for the 4 cost of hourglasses and dial spam)
Pretty much what I thought was that it made the deck way stronger vs its weaknesses but a little less strong vs its strengths.
PvP for me now normally goes - VS. rush deck, rush deck, stall deck, rush deck, cool odd deck, rush deck, COUNTER DECK, rush deck, PC/CC control deck, rush deck.
This deck beats everything easily enough except counter deck and to a lesser extent PC/CC control deck.
Counter deck could be anything from Black hole to ghost of the past. Darkness pests aren't as bad but can still wreck if enough come out early with a bad hand.
Sanctuary is awesome but its most awesome times happen too rarely to let it weaken the deck Vs. its bread and butter.

About most types of big control - They cost only a little less then the combo cards.
This means that the combo would be played almost immediately after them (keeping in mind draw speed)
This goes for things like firestorm, bonewall, phase shield etc.
That's the main reason I wouldn't add cards that cost more than a single nova to play (outside time quanta)
Cloak is cool though - I've never tried using it. I'll work it in and play a few games.


I think the most likely card to add is basilisk blood instead of a precog.
If anything goes out of the deck it'll be precog. He's like the substitute player :)

I hate nightmare, mostly because most times I see it it destroys me.
I know thats no reason not to give it a shot though, so I'll give it a go after BB.

Thanks for soundness silux!


EDIT:
Tried to get some AI grind statistics for (v.v) played 50 games.
Cleaned up OP a little.
Looked for where I left PvP statistics - Can't find them :(

 

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