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Re: Speedbowj33 - SBJ33 - AI3 Speed Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30708.msg459014#msg459014
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 07:17:21 pm »
Even without diving creatures I would choose CP over Werewolf any day.  The chances of Werewolf getting obliterated before activating Lycanthropy as well as the two turn delay before it reaches 6 attack just makes CP way more appealing.  CP also prevents some creatures from getting blown to pieces by Thunderbolt and the like, allowing for even greater damage potential and therefore greater speed.
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Re: Speedbowj33 - SBJ33 - AI3 Speed Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30708.msg459028#msg459028
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 07:46:02 pm »
Actually I can't see how this deck can support that much air quanta.
Pegasus changes with crusader and gives you a big EM potential by vamp dagger+Crusader+CP?
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Re: Speedbowj33 - SBJ33 - AI3 Speed Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30708.msg459041#msg459041
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 08:15:26 pm »
Actually I can't see how this deck can support that much air quanta.
Pegasus changes with crusader and gives you a big EM potential by vamp dagger+Crusader+CP?
Really not seeing your logic here at all. 
1)  The only time when the Pegasus would ever put a strain on :air quanta is when it and the Wyrm are drawn during the same game.  I ran 25 test games just to confirm my previous statement and out of those 25 games I drew both Pegasus and Wyrm during the same game twice.  However, it didn't even make a difference because the deck beat the AI's face in on the exact turn that I drew + played the Pegasus/Wyrm.
2)  Pegasus coupled with Chaos Power is much faster than anything Crusader could hope to achieve.  Actually, Pegasus alone is probably faster than Crusader here for numerous reasons.

This deck's speed is just unreal and it very well might be the fastest Speedbow ever created; I'm extremely surprised to find that the previous test results didn't show a single 4TTW since I managed 3 during my brief 25 game set.  As such, I don't understand why people are suggesting 1 or 2 changes that increase EM chances ever so slightly at the cost of its supersonic speed; that's going against the entire reason that this deck was created completely.  If you want a Speedbow that EMs frequently, go use TADAbow, otherwise you're wasting your time.

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Re: Speedbowj33 - SBJ33 - AI3 Speed Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30708.msg459045#msg459045
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 08:31:07 pm »
Actually I can't see how this deck can support that much air quanta.
Pegasus changes with crusader and gives you a big EM potential by vamp dagger+Crusader+CP?
Really not seeing your logic here at all. 
1)  The only time when the Pegasus would ever put a strain on :air quanta is when it and the Wyrm are drawn during the same game.  I ran 25 test games just to confirm my previous statement and out of those 25 games I drew both Pegasus and Wyrm during the same game twice.  However, it didn't even make a difference because the deck beat the AI's face in on the exact turn that I drew + played the Pegasus/Wyrm.
2)  Pegasus coupled with Chaos Power is much faster than anything Crusader could hope to achieve.  Actually, Pegasus alone is probably faster than Crusader here for numerous reasons.

This deck's speed is just unreal and it very well might be the fastest Speedbow ever created; I'm extremely surprised to find that the previous test results didn't show a single 4TTW since I managed 3 during my brief 25 game set.  As such, I don't understand why people are suggesting 1 or 2 changes that increase EM chances ever so slightly at the cost of its supersonic speed; that's going against the entire reason that this deck was created completely.  If you want a Speedbow that EMs frequently, go use TADAbow, otherwise you're wasting your time.

Taking this deck for a spin seems to have rekindled my TTW spirit.  I'm strongly considering running a full blown 200 game set for this deck now.
Maybe I'm just unlucky, it happened me 3 times out of 15 games to get both pegasus and wyrm fast and in the end I couldn't dive both.
And I don't see how a Crusader changing pegasus takes away the supersonic speed, but anyway, you probably have more experience than me with this kind of decks, so you are probably right.
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Re: Speedbowj33 - SBJ33 - AI3 Speed Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30708.msg459076#msg459076
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 11:06:33 pm »
I have a feeling that - 1 Flesh Recluse and -1 Vamp Dag; + 1 Precog +1 Arsenic would make it faster.
And maybe Epi for one frog. But I got to test this :)
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