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Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099829#msg1099829
« on: September 30, 2013, 12:12:34 am »
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Me again! I have a nearly upgraded Speedbow in store that focusses on flying Discords for quanta disruption while rushing bigger creatures. There are several combos in this deck that are quite useful.

Shard of Wisdom: I actually have 3 of these beauties, but as long as they are not upgraded, I will have to stick to one. Once I upgrade them, I will add another one. I use SoW either for Pegasus (hitting 16's is awesome) or for the Vampire for the increased healing.

Adrenaline: As soon as I got this one upped there will be two Epinephrines to use it on the Vampire (if not SoW'd) or on a Discord for more shuffling.

Discord: Quanta disruption and powerful in combination with Black Hole.

Supernova: Used to either rush the big critters or used twice to create a singularity that will be Antimattered.
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Re: Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099831#msg1099831
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 12:55:22 am »
interesting thought there with the singularities, but don't most or almost all of them (correct me if i am wrong) get immaterial as a possible effect?

such reliance on discord and how this deck wants more BH, imo it should be -1 or 2 SN for +1 or 2 Qtowers and then work in another BH or 2.

my last 2  :electrum are about the flying weapons --- since you would like that  :air quanta for dive, these would work far better upped (should do that soon as you are able). also, 3 FW to 4 Weapons is out of balance imo: i would like 2 to 4 seeing as how you won't draw all four weapons and often will face PC or CC(once they become creatures), and don't want the FWs to outnumber your weapons. dropping a FW would allow another Qtower or BH (see comment 2)

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Re: Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099834#msg1099834
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 01:47:10 am »
Antimatter on a Singularity is useless because a Singularity will antimatter itself if it has positive attack.

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Re: Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099835#msg1099835
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 02:04:24 am »
@CuCN: I see. It is useful enough to be used versus heavy critters, though.

@xyan: Thanks for the insightful comment! I tweaked the deck a little and came up with this after a lot of tests versus AI3 and the arena (silver + gold):

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It consistently has a TTW of 6~7 and often enough pulls an elemental mastery off. There are even more combos now and bad draws almost never happen.
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Re: Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099839#msg1099839
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 02:42:21 am »
you took out 2 SN but added only 1 Qtower, meanwhile adding 2 other cards of elements. this put even more stress on quanta -- and the advice for SN vs Qtower number was to provide constant quanta incase of lack of SN in draws

in a 30 card deck, how often will you get blessing or SoW AND dune scorp? rarely, you won't even believe how many times i have run firecell (34 cards) and gotten the 1 vulture as last draw. also, with a 6-7 ttw, dune+bless is actually slowing you down (this strategy is meant as damage built over time, not a big rush)
my opinion on re-edit: -1 bless, -1 dune, -1 SoW, +1 Qtower, +1 BH, +1 RT.

my opinion of why -1 SoW above and possibly why another -1 SoW: this change could warrant addition of creatures to the deck, which combats the chance of CC (1 more creature to make sure CC has less chance to ruin you vs 1 power up that doesnt prevent CC)
what would i add in place of this 2nd SoW? perhaps a psion or  :aether spider, perhaps exchange crawler with mind flayer and add forest spirit, maybe another graboid, maybe a wyrm (with the FWs upped of course)...many options
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Re: Discordia - City of Wonders [Rainbow] [Upped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51369.msg1099859#msg1099859
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 06:04:21 am »
Adrenaline: As soon as I got this one upped there will be two Epinephrines to use it on the Vampire (if not SoW'd) or on a Discord for more shuffling.

It's always better to use adrenalin on a creature with either 3 or 8 damage to get the most output. On a creature with 3 attack, you get: 3+3+3+3 = a damage increase of 9. if you use it on 8 you get: 8+6+3 = a damage increase of 9. If you use it on a creature with 4 attack, you get 4+3+2 = a damage increase of only 5.
So it's better to use adrenalin on a Vampire with Shard of Wisdom than without.
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