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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1037354#msg1037354
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2013, 08:13:50 pm »
Added an Upgrading order to the OP, with the first recommended upgrades to have a much higher win rate. Yes, Dragon is the first one, I found it better that way.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1041716#msg1041716
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2013, 02:09:38 am »
My very simple (yet slight) improvement to this deck was to just add in a druidic staff.  You can play it after 2 novas and since it heals you for 5 hp per turn, you can actually get EMs.

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1041721#msg1041721
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2013, 02:30:14 am »
My very simple (yet slight) improvement to this deck was to just add in a druidic staff.  You can play it after 2 novas and since it heals you for 5 hp per turn, you can actually get EMs.
As the majority of the Electrum gained comes from upgraded cards instead of the winning one, I wouldn't waste a space that could save my games drawing a shield.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1041779#msg1041779
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2013, 05:29:24 am »
My very simple (yet slight) improvement to this deck was to just add in a druidic staff.  You can play it after 2 novas and since it heals you for 5 hp per turn, you can actually get EMs.
As the majority of the Electrum gained comes from upgraded cards instead of the winning one, I wouldn't waste a space that could save my games drawing a shield.

Coming from someone who has absolutely no luck, I need all the electrum I can get with a win haha.  I do see your point though.

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1049884#msg1049884
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2013, 11:26:42 pm »
I like this deck a lot, but i think the novas arent worth it because you use only 4 types of quanta out of 12.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1049890#msg1049890
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2013, 11:42:54 pm »
I like this deck a lot, but i think the novas arent worth it because you use only 4 types of quanta out of 12.
It was my way to get the  :air and  :gravity quanta without putting many pillar/pends that aren't aether and with no risk of getting them too late.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1049892#msg1049892
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2013, 11:53:08 pm »
I like this deck a lot, but i think the novas arent worth it because you use only 4 types of quanta out of 12.
It was my way to get the  :air and  :gravity quanta without putting many pillar/pends that aren't aether and with no risk of getting them too late.

What's bad about putting in 5 :air and 5  :gravity pendulums?
I'm thinking about it because you need a LOT of time quanta.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1049895#msg1049895
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2013, 12:17:24 am »
I like this deck a lot, but i think the novas arent worth it because you use only 4 types of quanta out of 12.
It was my way to get the  :air and  :gravity quanta without putting many pillar/pends that aren't aether and with no risk of getting them too late.

What's bad about putting in 5 :air and 5  :gravity pendulums?
I'm thinking about it because you need a LOT of time quanta.
It's another option, yet you risk a bit more of not getting enough aether soon enough
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1049915#msg1049915
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2013, 02:10:50 am »
I like this deck a lot, but i think the novas arent worth it because you use only 4 types of quanta out of 12.
It was my way to get the  :air and  :gravity quanta without putting many pillar/pends that aren't aether and with no risk of getting them too late.

What's bad about putting in 5 :air and 5  :gravity pendulums?
I'm thinking about it because you need a LOT of time quanta.
It's another option, yet you risk a bit more of not getting enough aether soon enough

I just tried it out a few times. It's working very well. Doesn't seem to be risky.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1050494#msg1050494
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2013, 06:39:36 pm »
I modded this deck simply by taking out one of the PU's (I found myself almost always having to discard it anyways) and adding in a single purify. This has allowed me to get a lot of elemental masteries and has boosted my chances greatly against serket and made morte beatable around 40-50 percent of the time (although with more games these stats could change) anyways I'm new to all this so I just thought I would add in my tweak for anyone who wanted to give it a try.

added note: the healing from purify has also saved me from neptune's shockwaves when I couldn't get a shield fast enough and also from Fire Queen's lances.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] [Rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1050950#msg1050950
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2013, 05:28:53 pm »
another thought of mine on this deck is that the hectate win percentage you have seems a little high. I have only won about 10 or 15 percent of my games against him. rage potions do 60 hp then he poisons the dolls which poisons you as well as doing damage to you every round when they take damage (phase shield doesn't negate that). overall I think this deck is brilliant and has helped me actually win a lot of upped cards. thanks!

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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2013, 05:37:48 pm »
Thanks for the replies!

A purify can be useful against some FGs, that's a good change you made. About Hecate, I won 4 out of 10 games and felt I lost some of them because of extreme RNG, that's why I said 40-60.
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