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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007041#msg1007041
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2012, 12:30:45 am »
I am using your deck as you suggested to me in chat. My question though is vs Incarnate, by the time i get all my crap together, if I chimera it, it would take 7 turns at least to get through his bone wall. Why do you state that you need chimera?
Chimera has Momentum, so it passes through Bone Wall.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007101#msg1007101
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2012, 05:21:27 am »
I am using your deck as you suggested to me in chat. My question though is vs Incarnate, by the time i get all my crap together, if I chimera it, it would take 7 turns at least to get through his bone wall. Why do you state that you need chimera?
Chimera has momentum = bypass shield.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007161#msg1007161
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2012, 03:51:26 pm »
I've played a couple hundred games using this since it was posted. Of course, a whole bunch of those were auto-bails. Of the real matches, it took me about a dozen games to really get the "feel" of how to play the deck, and I lost some games I should have won. This deck requires patience in abundance, even going down to the last card occasionally, but it works if played correctly.

I can't believe I'm suggesting a tweak to a deck by Chapuz, but here it is. At first, I repeatedly found myself slightly out of balance on aether vs. time quantum. I found that replacing two or three aether pends with time pillars is perfect.

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007173#msg1007173
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2012, 04:29:50 pm »
I'm surprised people don't give him suggestions. Gonna leave it at that.

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007178#msg1007178
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2012, 04:47:54 pm »
I'm surprised people don't give him suggestions. Gonna leave it at that.

Perhaps, but he's done as much as anyone to both develop interesting decks and share them with the community.

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007182#msg1007182
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2012, 05:01:56 pm »
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he's done as much as anyone to both develop interesting decks and share them with the community.

Indeed - thanks chapuz for your extensive and well-done efforts assisting others with Elements decks and deck-building advice!  Keep it up!

Also, the rare-less aspect of this particular deck is quite nice.  I have taken to advising new-newbies to build it as the first FG deck!
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1007225#msg1007225
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2012, 09:32:27 pm »
I am using your deck as you suggested to me in chat. My question though is vs Incarnate, by the time i get all my crap together, if I chimera it, it would take 7 turns at least to get through his bone wall. Why do you state that you need chimera?
Chimera has Momentum, so it passes through Bone Wall.

Ohhh totally brain farted on that, thanks!

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1013611#msg1013611
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2012, 10:37:41 pm »
Love this deck. Had a win within ~10 min. of trying, so sucks to the guy who had a 30 game lose streak  ;D

It works even better when the hourglasses are upgraded... so I'd upgrade those first.

Tho sometimes I get distracted and play chimera first instead of sky blitz  >:(


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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1013623#msg1013623
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2012, 11:26:39 pm »
It works even better when the hourglasses are upgraded... so I'd upgrade those first.
Yeah, hourglasses are the first to upgrade, as they are useful for 1000+ decks  ;)
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1013735#msg1013735
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2012, 06:45:49 am »
I think an important thing to realise is that even though decks like this 'lose' a lot, overall you are gaining electrum real quick, especially when you learn the list of gods to ignore...
Knowing when to give up is way faster (and easier) than losing and giving up completely.


The main problem I have is my hand getting clogged... Discarding say some parallel universes is obviously not desirable. Suggestions?

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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1013755#msg1013755
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2012, 11:24:43 am »
I think an important thing to realise is that even though decks like this 'lose' a lot, overall you are gaining electrum real quick, especially when you learn the list of gods to ignore...
Knowing when to give up is way faster (and easier) than losing and giving up completely.


The main problem I have is my hand getting clogged... Discarding say some parallel universes is obviously not desirable. Suggestions?
Against FGs with no CC, play the dragon and PUs whenever you can.

Against the FGs with CC, discard the non-combo cards (aka hourglasses and shields) if you have your hand clogged. Play a new shield if yours has 2 turns or less instead of discarding one.
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Re: Devonian frOTKal FG OTK [100% Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42698.msg1025906#msg1025906
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2012, 12:49:46 am »
After you asked me in my Introduction Thread I thought I get the code together and post the version I use here to see if it is useful for anyone. With the help of your deck I managed to grind the mentioned FG and focused on upping the full thing to increase the success. So here is what I use now:


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Here are my thoughts that had me change it a little bit:

-1 Gravity Pendulum because with 6 Novas even if the remaining Pendulum is the last card its still 7 Gravity Electrum total and the upped Chimera needs 6

-5 Aether Pendulums because with the upped versions giving 1 when playing I found it more then enough for my needs.

+3 Purify because Serket gets even more easy with them, they help when CL or Destiny get poison creatures and Hecates LS poison. Vs the others it helps to get EM more often when you get them early and have a constant shield combo.

+1 Electrocutor helps in many ways. Most of the FG you grind dont have PC so you have a constant damage source, if you get it early vs the Fire Queen you can lobo the Queens so the Fire Lances wont hurt you that much and you can get rid of momentum creatures and so on and so on.

This makes -2 cards total which increases the chance to get Hourglass and Shield cards.


Summed up it is not that big of an improvement but (no proof in numbers though) imho it increases the % of your God by God breakdown at least a little which made it worth for me.
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