DEMA: Destroy 'EM All! V2.1

[frayedhope]

Taking out one of the heals and putting in a skull buckler has saved my life on many occasions versus AI3, T50 and PVP2.  (I know this isn't a PVP2 deck, but I still tried it out in a few matches.)

[jmdt]

I'm gonna try this guy on Silver.  It probably would make a great silver smasher.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

I'm gonna try this guy on Silver.  It probably would make a great silver smasher.

I tried it when arena was first released, didn't go too well, maybe it will have better luck now

[Opsinis]

I have done really well in Silver with this. The only problem is the mass SoGs and increased HP in Arena.

Great deck!

[Kizerrezik]

I was making a deck and about to post when I found this

I like this deck especially with it's ability to em on turn 6 against ai3

here's the changes I've made and it seems to run a tad faster, great deck though!

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[jmdt]

I was making a deck and about to post when I found this

I like this deck especially with it's ability to em on turn 6 against ai3

here's the changes I've made and it seems to run a tad faster, great deck though!

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I've pulled out 3 turn wins and a host of 4 and 5 turn EM wins with this deck.   Its fun.  It looks like the only difference in our versions is a phoenix for a heal.

[DarknessDemon]

something that should be looked at is a gem finder version. Which would let you change your mark to fire making the deck possibly a tad bit faster... Or upped ash eater with the earth mark...

[pikachufan2164]

Speaking of which, I had this tested just a few weeks ago in the Turns to Win Study thread:

Tested on high speed AI.

DEMA: Destroy 'EM All! V2.1 (Gemfinder variant) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12700.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg TTW: 6.757

Avg. sec/game: 67.415

Wins: 185 (92.50%)

Losses: 15

EMs: 111 (60.00%)

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Score gained: 4979 Score/game: 24.895 Score/min: 22.157 Electrum gained (no spins): 5534 Electrum/game (no spins): 27.670 Electrum/min (no spins): 24.627 Electrum gained (with spins): 6429 Electrum/game (with spins): 32.145 Electrum/min (with spins): 28.609 Time overall (min.): 224.717 Average TTW: 6.757 Average Turns Taken: 7.100 Average TTL: 11.333

ttw 3: 0 ttw 4: 29 ttw 5: 52 ttw 6: 26 ttw 7: 21 ttw 8: 13 ttw 9: 13 ttw 10: 12 ttw 11: 10 ttw 12: 2 ttw 13: 4 ttw 14: 1 ttw 15: 2 ttw 16: 0 ttw 17: 0

It's possible to squeeze out a few EMs by carefully managing your damage output and getting rid of your creatures with Immo on the last turn so that your Dagger has the last hit (to drain enough for an EM).

As with most Immorushes, when this deck faildraws, it's rather disastrous. I felt that I usually had enough surplus quanta with Gemfinders and an Earth mark that the Phoenix might be better off being replaced by a third Graboid, since there was usually little need to Immo the Phoenix for extra quanta, and the surplus quanta is put to better use with another Graboid.

Particular nuisances: Reverse Time, early CC, mass CC, Sundial, shields.

Gemfinders and Earth mark with additional Graboids is probably the fastest the deck can get while still retaining a good EM rate. Brimstones and Earth mark doesn't work as effectively because they cost 1 quanta to cast -- you can't always rely on having a Nova in the opening hand to power it.

[DarknessDemon]

Well i was just thinking that it could be faster that way with the extra 2 dmg per gemfinder or is it 1?


That and it could make it faster becuase you could have a fire mark.

You can also do the upped ash eater thing that gives fire quanta.

[Higurashi]

Gemfinder only does 1 damage, and Brimstone Eater costs 1 . The latter is not a viable option, and the former may look like one, but let's investigate that.

Even with Gemfinders, you'll want Earth mark to have a reliable source of . Since you need to Cremate Gemfinders, you won't have a surplus to give you a lot of the time. With Earth mark and Gemfinders, you'll get surplus in most games, which brings to mind adding more Graboids á la Destroids (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31474).

Unfortunately, there's not actually any place for them in this specifically designed, focused deck. This means removing something and adding more damage changes it into a possibly faster deck with less EM's. For instance, replacing Daggers with more Graboids.

[jmdt]

I need to test/update this deck now that cremeation got the nerf stick.

[TribalTrouble]

Just wondering, is there a better version of this what with the new SoB and other shards? (I know of Debauchery but that doesn't EM)