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deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506602#msg506602
« on: June 01, 2012, 07:00:22 pm »
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after a few tests i've notice that works that better with lightings instead o silences:
last. update_ -4 silences +1 phase shields +3 thunderbolts
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Outdeck a classic 30 card deck in PVP2 with style.
I need help 'cause i don't own 6 SoB therefore i can't use it in a PVP2 match to make a solid test...
The idea is to make the oppo(and of course you) draw like a mad 'till you get your eternity out(protected) to reverse mr. photon.
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506605#msg506605
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 07:08:22 pm »
Interesting concept (wish I had Shards of Bravery to help you test it).  I don't understand why the silences?  Doesn't that kind of ruin the strategy-- you need the enemy to keep his hand empty or your shards of bravery won't be effective...

Likewise with the quicksand in the earth version, denial = enemy doesn't play cards = strategy breaks down...

Maybe upped sundials should be used instead, since the point seems to be keeping yourself alive long enough for the deckout
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506606#msg506606
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 07:09:16 pm »
Nice idea, but the deck will never work.  All the opponent would have to do to beat it is hold cards in hand to prevent drawing too much when you use the shards of bravery.

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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506608#msg506608
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 07:11:29 pm »
Interesting concept (wish I had Shards of Bravery to help you test it).  I don't understand why the silences?  Doesn't that kind of ruin the strategy-- you need the enemy to keep his hand empty or your shards of bravery won't be effective...

Likewise with the quicksand in the earth version, denial = enemy doesn't play cards = strategy breaks down...
yep but you don't want to be killed by an horde of monsters, so you gotta use SoB with intelligence as well the silences. of course use it when he play pillars or meaningless permanents, let him play his monsters only when you got your shield out.
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506612#msg506612
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 07:18:02 pm »
Nice idea, but the deck will never work.  All the opponent would have to do to beat it is hold cards in hand to prevent drawing too much when you use the shards of bravery.
at a first look the oppo will think to a classic  :fire rush(the old supernovasbow maniacs are now the  :fire rushers... ::)) and they'll be a lil' surpised imo, also i'm starting to like more the  :earth ver. the quicksand can be the key.
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506624#msg506624
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 08:02:38 pm »
i would remove the second eternity and add a few rewinds.
both prevent deckout, but rewinds are cheaper and can stop damage early game.
also, do you have enough quanta to run the sobs? you only have 12 pillars and quanta seems pretty tight even without sobs.

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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506629#msg506629
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 08:09:25 pm »
i would remove the second eternity and add a few rewinds.
both prevent deckout, but rewinds are cheaper and can stop damage early game.
also, do you have enough quanta to run the sobs? you only have 12 pillars and quanta seems pretty tight even without sobs.
the quanta generation is not a problem and ye, for sure 1 rewind instead of the second eternity will be cheaper for the same effect, other rewinds are not usefull since you just need 1 rewind(as you sugg.) and 1 eternity to start the rewind chain.
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506696#msg506696
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 11:24:59 pm »
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506697#msg506697
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bob as sugg. it yet and yep it makes sense.you used this method in your troll deck ;)
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506704#msg506704
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2012, 11:44:40 pm »
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506708#msg506708
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 11:56:54 pm »
The  :earth deck should be moved to the trio section, or this thread to the deck compilations. It's a PVP2 killer because we are in the 30-card-decks era, I don't even talk about CL!
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Re: deckoutu [PVP2] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40926.msg506710#msg506710
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2012, 12:18:46 am »
The  :earth deck should be moved to the trio section, or this thread to the deck compilations. It's a PVP2 killer because we are in the 30-card-decks era, I don't even talk about CL!
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I would say to move it to the trios-quartet section.
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